Heapy Relationship??

[dolly]

Joseph Downs/Downes and Eliza Heapy were my great great great grandparents.
Here is their marriage:

Marriages Sep 1883.
DOWNS Joseph. Ashborne. 7b. 925.
HEAPY Eliza. Ashborne. 7b. 925.
Joseph Downs.
Groom's Birth Date: 1846.
Groom's Age: 37.
Bride's Name: Eliza Heapy.
Bride's Birth Date: 1855.
Bride's Age: 28.
Marriage Date: 20 Aug 1883.
Marriage Place: Allstonefield, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Josephus Heapy.
Bride's Father's Name: Samuel Heapy.
Groom's Marital Status: Single,
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01041-3.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1278802.
Reference Number: p64 cn128.

Joseph's father was Josephus Heapy and Eliza's father was Samuel Heapy.....can anyone find out the relationship of my 2 greatx4 grandfathers please. I don't have any information about them at all yet.
Thankyou

[Maths girl]

Joseph Downs/Downes and Eliza Heapy were my great great great grandparents.
Here is their marriage:

Marriages Sep 1883.
DOWNS Joseph. Ashborne. 7b. 925.
HEAPY Eliza. Ashborne. 7b. 925.
Joseph Downs.
Groom's Birth Date: 1846.
Groom's Age: 37.
Bride's Name: Eliza Heapy.
Bride's Birth Date: 1855.
Bride's Age: 28.
Marriage Date: 20 Aug 1883.
Marriage Place: Allstonefield, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Josephus Heapy.
Bride's Father's Name: Samuel Heapy.
Groom's Marital Status: Single,
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01041-3.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1278802.
Reference Number: p64 cn128.

Joseph's father was Josephus Heapy and Eliza's father was Samuel Heapy.....can anyone find out the relationship of my 2 greatx4 grandfathers please. I don't have any information about them at all yet.
Thankyou

If you don't have any further information on Josephus and Samuel -- have you considered the possibility that Josephus was a Downs like his son and there has been a mistake made at some stage ? Unusual for a son to have a different surname to the father !

[dolly]

Joseph's parents were Susannah Downes and Josephus Heapy. They were never married, hence Joseph was Downes and not Heapy. As far as I can gather Josephus never married. Susannah eventually married Samuel Heapy when she was in her 50s. Eliza was Samuel's daughter from his first marriage to Betty (can't find her maiden name) but she died. So Joseph & Eliza were half brother and sister (though not blood relations).

1881 Census: Angrack, Quarnford
HEAPY, Susannah Head Widow F 67 1814 Farmer Of 23 Acres Of Land Quarnford Staffordshire
HEAPY, Eliza Step Daughter Single F 26 1855 Empd At Home (Dom) Quarnford Staffordshire
DOWNES, Joseph Son Single M 34 1847 Genl Farm Labourer Quarnford Staffordshire
HEAPEY, Mary A Step Daurs Child Single F 7 1874 Scholar Quarnford Staffordshire

1861 Census:

Hen Roach, Quarford.
Samuel Heafey 50. Farmer of 30 Acres.
Betty Heafey 49.
Samuel Heafey 20. Son. Coal miner.
Mary Ann Heafey 13. Dau.
Elizabeth Heafey 11. Dau
William Heafey 17. Son. Ag lab.
Eliza Heafey 6. Dau.

All born Quarnford.

1871 Census

Hen Roach, Quarnford, Staffordshire.
Samuel Heapy 60. Farmer of 25 Acres.
Susannah Heapy 56.
Eliza Heapy 16. Dau. Umn.

All born Quarnford.

I'm sure I have come across Josephus on a couple of censuses. I will have to look through my old posts to see if I can find them.

[dolly]

I've just found Josephus with his parents!! (Thanks to Jimmy back in May)
Looks like Heapy on image.

1841. Ann Roach, Quarnford, Allstonefield.
Samuel Healey 30. lab.
Betty Healey 25.
Ellen Healey 7.
John Healey 5.
Sarah Healey 4.
Samuel Healey 3 MO.

On the same page,
Adders Green,
Josephus Healey 80.
Martha Healey 70.
Josephus Healey 30.

Samuel & Josephus are both aged 30 on the census. Still no idea of relationship though

[linell]

Looks like Samuel and Josephus could be brothers, both aged about 30.

HTH Linell.

[dolly]

Oh dear
Also, looking at the 1841 census again Josephus & Martha could actually be grandparents not parents looking at their ages
I'm sure I have the marriage for Samuel & Susannah somewhere so maybe his father is listed. I can't find his first marriage to Betty as I don't know her maiden name or where they married

[linell]

Betty could be Elizabeth on the Marriage Entry Dolly, best to keep an open mind.

Linell.