Hi there,
Can someone help me with this brickwall that has been 'bugging' me for years !
Lily Mayer Scriven was born in March 1901, daughter of Jessie Scriven of Dye Lane, Alveley, nr Bridgnorth, Shropshire
Lily is listed on the 1901 census, but I can't find her in 1911 census ???? ( not to be confused with another Lily Scriven born in Alveley at the same time !)
Lily leaves Alveley and marries Felix Edwin Bateman ( a much older man) at Coventry, in September 1926.
and they have a daughter.
Felix dies around 1950....but what happened to Lily ?
My initial thoughts were did Lily re-marry ?....and I quickly found this entry 'Lily BATEMAN married Harry HALL Coventry 1951'
But I have been unable to find a death for a Lily Hall (born March 1901) ???......
Any help much appreciated
Margaret
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !
Have you searched the full GRO Index on Ancestry, will be on there.
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !
Hello Linell
Yes..myself and a friend both searched the GRO on Ancestry and neither of us found Lily...
Yes..myself and a friend both searched the GRO on Ancestry and neither of us found Lily...
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !
The Find My Past indexes are now more accurate than Ancestry.
Having a look, these are potential deaths
Civil Registration event: Death
Name: BATEMAN, Lilian M
Registration District: Hammersmith
County: London
Year of Registration: 1962
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 60
Volume No: 5C
Page No: 659
Name: BATEMAN, Lilian M
Registration District: Help Waltham Forest
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1967
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 67
Volume No: 5E
Page No: 313
I see she used the name Miriam in the 1901 census.
Still couldn't find her in the 1911 census though....
Having a look, these are potential deaths
Civil Registration event: Death
Name: BATEMAN, Lilian M
Registration District: Hammersmith
County: London
Year of Registration: 1962
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 60
Volume No: 5C
Page No: 659
Name: BATEMAN, Lilian M
Registration District: Help Waltham Forest
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1967
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 67
Volume No: 5E
Page No: 313
I see she used the name Miriam in the 1901 census.
Still couldn't find her in the 1911 census though....
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !
Hi there,
Many thaks for your kindness and help. It is much appreciated
I looked at lilian too....but from what I am told Lily is definatley a 'Lily' rather than a Lilian...the baptism register says Lily and so does the marriage register
the puzzle continues
...any help much appreciated
Best Wishes Margaret
Many thaks for your kindness and help. It is much appreciated
I looked at lilian too....but from what I am told Lily is definatley a 'Lily' rather than a Lilian...the baptism register says Lily and so does the marriage register
the puzzle continues

Best Wishes Margaret
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !
1901
SCRIVEN, Charles Head Married M 55 1846 Ordy Agricul Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Ann Wife Married F 50 1851
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Jessie Daughter Single F 23 1878
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Richard Son Single M 22 1879 Ord Agri Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Ellen Daughter Single F 20 1881
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Esther E Daughter Single F 19 1882
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Charles E S Son Single M 17 1884 Ord Agri Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Agnes M Daughter Single F 12 1889
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Harriet E Daughter F 10 1891
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Rhoda Daughter F 8 1893
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Alice E Daughter F 6 1895
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Miriam Grand Daughter F 0 (UNDER 1 MOS) 1901
Alveley
Salop
Dye Lane, Alveley County:
Shropshire
SCRIVEN, Charles Head Married M 55 1846 Ordy Agricul Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Ann Wife Married F 50 1851
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Jessie Daughter Single F 23 1878
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Richard Son Single M 22 1879 Ord Agri Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Ellen Daughter Single F 20 1881
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Esther E Daughter Single F 19 1882
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Charles E S Son Single M 17 1884 Ord Agri Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Agnes M Daughter Single F 12 1889
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Harriet E Daughter F 10 1891
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Rhoda Daughter F 8 1893
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Alice E Daughter F 6 1895
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Miriam Grand Daughter F 0 (UNDER 1 MOS) 1901
Alveley
Salop
Dye Lane, Alveley County:
Shropshire
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !
1911
ROBINSON, Abraham Head Married M 46 1865 Coal Miner Deputy Staffordshire Woodlane
ROBINSON, Jessie Wife Married
8 years F 36 1875 Shropshire Alveley
ROBINSON, John S Son Single M 12 1899 School Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Linden Daughter Single F 6 1905 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Mildred Daughter Single F 5 1906 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Joyce Daughter Single F 3 1908 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Eva L Daughter Single F 1 1910 Shropshire Highley
SCRIVEN, Rhoda Visitor Single F 18 1893 Shropshire Alveley
Address:
3 Crescent Terrace Highley Near Bridgnorth
Have you got this marriage?
SCRIVENS, Jessie Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire 1904 Jan-Feb-Mar 6A 838
ROBINSON, Abraham Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire 1904 Jan-Feb-Mar 6A 838
ROBINSON, Abraham Head Married M 46 1865 Coal Miner Deputy Staffordshire Woodlane
ROBINSON, Jessie Wife Married
8 years F 36 1875 Shropshire Alveley

ROBINSON, John S Son Single M 12 1899 School Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Linden Daughter Single F 6 1905 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Mildred Daughter Single F 5 1906 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Joyce Daughter Single F 3 1908 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Eva L Daughter Single F 1 1910 Shropshire Highley
SCRIVEN, Rhoda Visitor Single F 18 1893 Shropshire Alveley
Address:
3 Crescent Terrace Highley Near Bridgnorth
Have you got this marriage?
SCRIVENS, Jessie Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire 1904 Jan-Feb-Mar 6A 838
ROBINSON, Abraham Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire 1904 Jan-Feb-Mar 6A 838
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !
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