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ARC TBC LILY SCRIVEN/BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

Post by margaretsheridan »

Hi there,
Can someone help me with this brickwall that has been 'bugging' me for years !
Lily Mayer Scriven was born in March 1901, daughter of Jessie Scriven of Dye Lane, Alveley, nr Bridgnorth, Shropshire
Lily is listed on the 1901 census, but I can't find her in 1911 census ???? ( not to be confused with another Lily Scriven born in Alveley at the same time !)

Lily leaves Alveley and marries Felix Edwin Bateman ( a much older man) at Coventry, in September 1926.
and they have a daughter.
Felix dies around 1950....but what happened to Lily ?
My initial thoughts were did Lily re-marry ?....and I quickly found this entry 'Lily BATEMAN married Harry HALL Coventry 1951'
But I have been unable to find a death for a Lily Hall (born March 1901) ???......

Any help much appreciated
Margaret
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

Post by linell »

Have you searched the full GRO Index on Ancestry, will be on there.

Linell.
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

Post by margaretsheridan »

Hello Linell
Yes..myself and a friend both searched the GRO on Ancestry and neither of us found Lily...
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

Post by MarkCDodd »

The Find My Past indexes are now more accurate than Ancestry.

Having a look, these are potential deaths

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: BATEMAN, Lilian M
Registration District: Hammersmith
County: London
Year of Registration: 1962
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 60
Volume No: 5C
Page No: 659

Name: BATEMAN, Lilian M
Registration District: Help Waltham Forest
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1967
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 67
Volume No: 5E
Page No: 313

I see she used the name Miriam in the 1901 census.

Still couldn't find her in the 1911 census though....
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

Post by margaretsheridan »

Hi there,
Many thaks for your kindness and help. It is much appreciated
I looked at lilian too....but from what I am told Lily is definatley a 'Lily' rather than a Lilian...the baptism register says Lily and so does the marriage register
the puzzle continues :P ...any help much appreciated
Best Wishes Margaret
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

Post by rockyfowler »

1901
SCRIVEN, Charles Head Married M 55 1846 Ordy Agricul Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Ann Wife Married F 50 1851
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Jessie Daughter Single F 23 1878
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Richard Son Single M 22 1879 Ord Agri Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Ellen Daughter Single F 20 1881
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Esther E Daughter Single F 19 1882
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Charles E S Son Single M 17 1884 Ord Agri Labourer
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Agnes M Daughter Single F 12 1889
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Harriet E Daughter F 10 1891
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Rhoda Daughter F 8 1893
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Alice E Daughter F 6 1895
Alveley
Salop
SCRIVEN, Miriam Grand Daughter F 0 (UNDER 1 MOS) 1901
Alveley
Salop

Dye Lane, Alveley County:
Shropshire
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

Post by rockyfowler »

1911
ROBINSON, Abraham Head Married M 46 1865 Coal Miner Deputy Staffordshire Woodlane
ROBINSON, Jessie Wife Married
8 years F 36 1875 Shropshire Alveley :idea:
ROBINSON, John S Son Single M 12 1899 School Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Linden Daughter Single F 6 1905 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Mildred Daughter Single F 5 1906 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Joyce Daughter Single F 3 1908 Shropshire Highley
ROBINSON, Eva L Daughter Single F 1 1910 Shropshire Highley
SCRIVEN, Rhoda Visitor Single F 18 1893 Shropshire Alveley

Address:
3 Crescent Terrace Highley Near Bridgnorth
Have you got this marriage?
SCRIVENS, Jessie Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire 1904 Jan-Feb-Mar 6A 838

ROBINSON, Abraham Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire 1904 Jan-Feb-Mar 6A 838
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Re: LILY SCRIVEN / BATEMAN/ HALL - a long time brickwall !

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