Can we verify this lot pls

[Northern Lass]

Trying to find out what happened to Lily Sewell....where she is buried etc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =653923585

Did she die after 1915 marriage to Joseph Raybould
or did he die in 1921 (poss buried 11-7-1921 st peter cradley ....and she went onto marry an Albert Jeavons in 1921
does she die in 1961
where is she buried?

then need to verify cos confusing...
are Joseph Raybould and Thomas bros ...maybe father is a george
Does Thomas Raybould marry Leah Marsons in ..
1913
RAYBOULD Thomas MARSONS Leah Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/6/107

Thomas killed fighting 23 April 1917 age 24

Then does Leah marry his brother Joseph Raybould in ...
1918
RAYBOULD Leah RAYBOULD Joseph Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/034/181


If Joseph marries in 1915 to Leah he cant marry in 1915 to Lily sewell

so which is it?

note it may be that Joseph Raybould who dies 1921 is buried in same grave as Leah Raybould who dies 1932 poss burial 2-11-1932 aged 39
in which case the marriage of Leah Raybould to Joseph is prob correct

need help sorting pls

[gardener]

I doubt if it is this one http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... uld-Family

1901
160 Leek Rd, Norton in the Moors
Stephen Raybould 56 Wolverhampton [rest born Dudley]
Betsy Raybould 47
Frederick Raybould 22
Lane Raybould 16
Lily Raybould 14
Joseph Raybould 11
Thomas Raybould 8
Bert Raybould 6

1911
Norton in the Moors
Betsy Raybould 60
Joseph Raybould 21
Thomas Raybould 18
Bert Raybould 16


British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Joseph Raybould
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1890
Birth Place: Quarry Bank, South Stafford
Age: 22
Document Year: 1912
Regimental Number: 2329
Regiment Name: North Midland (Staffs) Heavy Battery R G A
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
Number of Images: 5
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Joseph Raybould Self (Head)
Betsy Raybould

[gardener]

Name: Joseph Raybould
Birth Place: Bilston, Staffs
Death Date: 26 Feb 1917
Death Place: Mesopotamia
Enlistment Place: Ashton-under-lyne
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: 86292
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Asiatic Theatres


Rank:
Gunner
Service No:
86292
Date of Death:
26/02/1917
Regiment/Service:
Royal Field Artillery

"A" Bty. 66th Bde.
Grave Reference:
XXVIII. B. 4.
Cemetery:
AMARA WAR CEMETERY
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Name: Joseph Raybould
Birth Place: Dudley, Worcs
Residence: Dudley
Death Date: 6 Aug 1915
Death Place: Gallipoli
Enlistment Place: Worcester
Rank: Private
Regiment: Worcestershire Regiment
Battalion: 4th Battalion
Regimental Number: 16432
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Balkan Theatre


Rank:
Private
Service No:
16432
Date of Death:
06/08/1915
Age:
33
Regiment/Service:
Worcestershire Regiment

4th Bn.
Panel Reference:
Panel 104 to 113.
Memorial:
HELLES MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Harriett Raybould, of 14, Salop St., Dudley; husband of Florry Raybould, of 128, Salop St., Dudley, Worcs.

[Northern Lass]

So the pension records one ....does that mean he didnt die in war?.....so that one with stephen and Betsy is not the one
who is supposed to die 23 april 1917

do the pension records mean that they survive?.....bit dumb on the military stuff as you know gardener


and the others have the wrong dod..

[Northern Lass]

I think Lily dies in 1917

Joseph then goes onto marry Leah Raybould nee Marsons ....ie his bros wife.

poss deaths
Deaths Jun 1917
Raybould Lily 30 Stourbridge 6c 55

bmsgh
RAYBOULD Lily Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/115/165

There is this one too on free bmd

Deaths Mar 1920
RAYBOULD Lily 27 Dudley 6b 971

cant see that one on bmsgh.

I cant see her birth she has age on 1901 as age 12 living with parents
and on 1911 23

marriage she puts 23 in 1915

so I think she is born using census as abt 1887/8
and so the 1917 death aged 30 would fit.....her hubby then goes onto marry in 1918 Leah

so will have a look see if we have her in the photo images burials .....unless anyone else can find her in there pls

maybe buried st peters
or st lukes

[gardener]

then need to verify cos confusing...
are Joseph Raybould and Thomas bros ...maybe father is a george
Does Thomas Raybould marry Leah Marsons in ..
1913
RAYBOULD Thomas MARSONS Leah Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/6/107

Thomas killed fighting 23 April 1917 age 24

Rank:
Private
Service No:
21266
Date of Death:
23/04/1917
Age:
24
Regiment/Service:
Worcestershire Regiment

4th Bn
Panel Reference:
Bay 6.
Memorial:
ARRAS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of George and Helen Raybould, of 35, New St., Quarry Bank, Brierley Hill, Staffs; husband of Leah Raybould, of 19, New St., Cradley, Cradley Heath, Staffs.

so Thomas is this one

1911
No 35 New St, Quarry Bank, Brierley Hill, Staf
George Raybould 48
Ellen Raybould 45
Martha Raybould 22
Joseph Raybould 21
William Raybould 18
Thomas Raybould 16
Mary Raybould 12
Rose Raybould 5
Annie Raybould 3

1901
George Raybould 37
Ellen Raybould 35
George Raybould 14
Martha Raybould 12
Joseph Raybould 10
William Raybould 8
Thomas Raybould 6
Mary Raybould 2
Bertie Raybould 2/12

[gardener]

then need to verify cos confusing...
are Joseph Raybould and Thomas bros ...maybe father is a george
Does Thomas Raybould marry Leah Marsons in ..
1913
RAYBOULD Thomas MARSONS Leah Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/6/107

Thomas killed fighting 23 April 1917 age 24

Then does Leah marry his brother Joseph Raybould in ...
1918
RAYBOULD Leah RAYBOULD Joseph Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/034/181


If Joseph marries in 1915 to Leah he cant marry in 1915 to Lily sewell

so which is it?

So:

Thomas Raybould marries Leah in 1913
Joseph Raybould marries Lily in 1915 (witnessed by Leah Raybould)
Thomas Raybould killed in 1917

[gardener]

1917 death [aged 30]
RAYBOULD Lily Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/115/165

1918 marriage
RAYBOULD Joseph RAYBOULD Leah Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/034/181

so it is possible but would need proving.
There are so many people with the same names.

[gardener]

These to births might support the theory. Surname Rayboulds, mother Marsons... Thomas Raybould was dead by then.

Births Sep 1918
Raybould George H Marsons Stourbridge 6c 9
Births Jun 1920
Raybould William Marsons Stourbridge 6c 16

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Gardener

so we think Lily does die ........anyone see a burial anywhere?

which one you think is her death Gardener?

and can you find her birth?

I couldnt find the marriage of her parents
John sewell and Julia

[rockyfowler]

15 Nov 1886 St Thomas Dudley
John SHEWELL 23 B Blacksmith Queens Cross Dudley Father John Shewell (Dec) Black Smith
Julia BOSWELL 20 S Queens Cross Father John Boswell (Dec) Engineer
After Banns The X Of John Julia Signed
Wit; David Hughes / Mary Ann Billingham

[gardener]

1891
Rowley Regis
John Sewell 29
Julia Sewell 25
John W Sewell 4
Lilly M Sewell 1

1901
Rowley Regis
John W Savell 39
Julia Sewell 39
John Sewell 14
Lily Sewell 12
Samuel Sewell 8
Hetty Sewell 5

1911
Little Hill, Cradley Heath
John Sewell 52
Julia Sewell 44
Lilly Sewell 23
Samuel Sewell 17
Hetty Sewell 15
Alice Sewell 6
William Sewell 4
William Smith 23
Burzilla Homer 51

Births Sep 1889
Sewell Lily Maria Dudley 6c 20

this death perhaps? age is a bit off

Deaths Jun 1917
Raybould Lily 30 Stourbridge 6c 55

[Northern Lass]

15 Nov 1886 St Thomas Dudley
John SHEWELL 23 B Blacksmith Queens Cross Dudley Father John Shewell (Dec) Black Smith
Julia BOSWELL 20 S Queens Cross Father John Boswell (Dec) Engineer
After Banns The X Of John Julia Signed
Wit; David Hughes / Mary Ann Billingham

Thanks Rf

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Gardener

If they married in St Lukes church I wonder if Lily was buried there...think we have those in gallery

[Northern Lass]

Completed with thanks