Joseph Barker/ Mary Ann Crewley

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I was looking for James and Ann's wedding, found this instead!

WILLIAM CROLEY
Marriages:
Spouse: DEBORAH DEELEY Family
Marriage: 15 FEB 1790 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

Extracted

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James Crowley is on the probate calender as having died 14 August 1863:

10 December 1863. Letters of Administration of the Personal estates and effects of James Crowley late of Spon Lane in the Parish of West Bromwich in the County of Stafford Ironfounder's Clerk a widower deceased who died 14 August 1863 at Spon Lane aforesaid were granted at Lichfield to Cyrus Crowley of Spon lane aforesaid Millman the son of the said deceased having first being sworn. Effects under £50.

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Still haven't been able to find any more on Joseph, can anyone see something I've missed?

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Okay, I think I've nearly got all I can. I'm not totally comfortable with the Crewley /Crowley connection, but given the lack of Crewley records generally this could very well be an error on the marriage record.

What do you lot think?

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Doesn't seem to match up with any of the Joseph Baker's on BCC, unless Mary Ann died early on!

[kdw]

Is this the Baker Family ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ker-Family

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It's the only one where Joseph's a minor in 1854 and has Joseph as father, but it does seem unlikely that he'd have married twice in 1854!

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I feel we've still a few things that need checking!

9th Jan 1854, Dudley Parish Church
Joseph Barker, Minor, B, Miner, Dudley, Joseph Barker, Miner
Mary Ann Crewley, Minor, S, - Dudley, James Crewley, Brass Founder
By Banns.
Witnesses: Edward Baker; Edna Baker.


1841
Bromley, Kingswinford
Josh Baken 35 - MinerSarah Baken 30
Honnon Baken 15
Miria Baken 14
Edwd Baken 10
Josh Baken 7

1851
Bromley, Kingswinford
Joseph Baker 41 - Coalminer
Sarah Baker 41
Edward Baker 18 - Coalminer
Joseph Baker 16 - Coalminer
James Storick 19 - Lodger - Coalminer
Joseph Davies 16 - Lodger - Coalminer
all b Kingswinford

1852
25 Dec 1852 St Thomas Dudley
Edward BAKER F B Miner Dudley Father Joseph Baker Miner
Edna DARBEY F S Dudley Father George Darbey Miner The Marks Of Both
Wit; Margaret Brown X Richard Darbey X

Looks like Edward is on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ker-Family

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CROWLEY/CREWLEY FAMILY

9th Jan 1854, Dudley Parish Church
Joseph Barker, Minor, B, Miner, Dudley, Joseph Barker, Miner
Mary Ann Crewley, Minor, S, - Dudley, James Crewley, Brass Founder
By Banns.
Witnesses: Edward Baker; Edna Baker.

1841
Spon Lane Foundry, West Bromwich
James Crowley 30 - Clerk
Ann Crowley 25
Sarah Crowley 6
Ann Crowley 4
Cyrus Crowley 2
all b in c

1851
Spon Lane Iron Foundry:
CROWLEY, James Head Widower M 44 1807 Iron Founders Office Clerk
CROWLEY, Martha Sister Unmarried F 58 1793
CROWLEY, Sarah Daughter F 15 1836 Scholar
CROWLEY, Amn Daughter F 13 1838 Scholar
CROWLEY, Cyrus Son M 11 1840 Scholar
CROWLEY, James Son M 9 1842 Scholar
CROWLEY, Martha Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
All born West Bromwich

1861
Canal Side, West Bromwich
James Crowley 54 - widow - Clerk comm
Martha Crowley 68 - sister - unm - Housekeeper
Sarah Crowley 25 - Dressmaker
Cyrus Crowley 21 - Forgeman
James Crowley 19 - Clerk
Martha Crowley 17 - Pupil teacher
all b West Bromwich

Extracted
Parents William & Deborah
MARY CROWLEY
Female Christening: 30 JAN 1791 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
MARTHA CROWLEY
Female Christening: 27 JAN 1793 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
DANIEL CROWLEY
Male Christening: 28 MAR 1796 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
Death: 11 MAY 1800
SARAH CROWLEY
Female Christening: 30 SEP 1799 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
JOHN CROWLEY
Male Christening: 27 MAR 1803 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
JAMES CROWLEYMale Christening: 03 NOV 1806 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford

WILLIAM CROLEY
Marriages:
Spouse: DEBORAH DEELEY Family
Marriage: 15 FEB 1790 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Extracted


James Crowley is on the probate calender as having died 14 August 1863:
10 December 1863. Letters of Administration of the Personal estates and effects of James Crowley late of Spon Lane in the Parish of West Bromwich in the County of Stafford Ironfounder's Clerk a widower deceased who died 14 August 1863 at Spon Lane aforesaid were granted at Lichfield to Cyrus Crowley of Spon lane aforesaid Millman the son of the said deceased having first being sworn. Effects under £50.

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Poss Joseph parents marriage
Submitted
JOSEPH BAKER
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH ASTON
Marriage: 23 AUG 1824 Kingswinford, Stafford

PR
23 Aug 1824
Joseph Baker, otp & Sarah Aston, otp
by banns J.T. Matthews
Wit - Benj. Male & Thos. Walker

Extracted
JOSEPH BAKER
Christening: 29 JUN 1834 Kingswinford And St. Marys Chapelry, Stafford
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH BAKER
Mother: SARAH

This all matches up with this Joseph:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ker-Family

I think we're getting somewhere!!

[Northern Lass]

Snoops are you adding this then can I remove Mr Green and add a little icon for you!

Just need to get the look up to double check that the Joseph Baker/Eliz Devell marriage is incorrect then I'll add!

I'm reasonably convinced that Mary Ann Crewley should be Crowley as the info matches and there are so few Crewley's generally - what do you all think??

That marriage for Joseph Baker and Mary ann crewley or whatever her name is
is the right one with brother edward convinced of it
as he is with with wife edna

I have altered it on bcc here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ker-Family

so I think we can add that marriage info to that Joseph

The other Elizabeth Devall to Joseph Baker we dont have on BCC yet...I dont think
and that ties in with that info you sent me re the 1851 where she is with father John a tailor
then she is a wid in 1861

Then we have the other Joseph Baker with wife Elizabeth on the 1861 at Kingswinford with son Joseph Baker b 1855
and we have them on BCC......I think that is Elizabeth Cooper

I have both those elizabeth ones to look up

But we can I think add that marriage cos of wits edward and edna
occup of father coalminer name of father Joseph

looks good to me

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I'll have a good look at this this evening when there's a bit of peace and quiet. I'll check out the ages for the kids!
(like my radioactive symbol NL, very appropriate seeing I'm a radiographer!)

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I'm pretty sure that James' occupation is Iron Founders Office Clerk, he's down as clerk on some of the census', but on two of them he's living at Spon Lane Foundry in West Bromwich. If the Ann on the census is the same as our Mary Ann then she'd have been born about 1837/38.

Extracted
Parents William & Deborah

MARY CROWLEY
Female Christening: 30 JAN 1791 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
MARTHA CROWLEY
Female Christening: 27 JAN 1793 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
DANIEL CROWLEY
Male Christening: 28 MAR 1796 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
Death: 11 MAY 1800
SARAH CROWLEY
Female Christening: 30 SEP 1799 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
JOHN CROWLEY
Male Christening: 27 MAR 1803 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
JAMES CROWLEY
Male Christening: 03 NOV 1806 All Saints, West Bromwich,

1841
Spon Lane Foundry, West Bromwich
James Crowley 30 - Clerk
Ann Crowley 25
Sarah Crowley 6
Ann Crowley 4
Cyrus Crowley 2
all b in c

1851
CROWLEY, James Head Widower M 44 1807 Iron Founders Office Clerk
CROWLEY, Martha Sister Unmarried F 58 1793
CROWLEY, Sarah Daughter F 15 1836 Scholar
CROWLEY, Amn Daughter F 13 1838 Scholar
CROWLEY, Cyrus Son M 11 1840 Scholar
CROWLEY, James Son M 9 1842 Scholar
CROWLEY, Martha Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar

1861
Canal Side, West Bromwich
James Crowley 54 - widow - Clerk comm
Martha Crowley 68 - sister - unm - Housekeeper
Sarah Crowley 25 - Dressmaker
Cyrus Crowley 21 - Forgeman
James Crowley 19 - Clerk
Martha Crowley 17 - Pupil teacher
all b West Bromwich

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I've updated Mary Ann's birth year, as well as James Crowley's. Hope this is okay!

[Northern Lass]

Will archive both threads pending certif on devall one