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Re: Edwin Johnson

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Hi Guys

Just read through your wonderful posts. Thank you so much for looking up info for me.

This is what i know.

Edwin Johnson, born c1840 in Rowley Regis
Married Mary Boswell.

The part where i get stuck is that i have no official documents for Edwin(1840) on his marriage record it lists his father as being William Johnson - Dealer?

If he was illegitimate why is his father present at his marriage?

The reason i feel that this Edwin is my Edwin is because its the right year, 1840, the right area Rowley Regis and the address that he is living at in 1841 is near to where i have found other relatives living. The only thing puzzling me is him being illegitimate and Phoebe would'nt be a Johnson if she married into the family.

Really stuck with this one!
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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Northern Lass wrote:
Maths girl wrote:Are we looking for a marriage 1842 ish for Phoebe Johnson and Henry Barber?

1851 Back Of Garrats Lane, Rowley Regis
BARBER, Henry Head Married M 29 1822 Carter Coventry Warwickshire
BARBER, Phoebe Wife Married F 32 1819 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
BARBER, Edwin Son M 11 1840 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
BARBER, William Son M 8 1843 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
BARBER, Mary Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
BARBER, Henry Son M 1 1850 Rowley Regis Staffordshire


we have the marriage here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ber-Family

just after a marriage for Edwin Johnson or Edwin Barber


Phoebe states spinister on marriage
1 Nov 1841
Henry Barber, X, of full age, bach, Miner of Garratts Lane, s of Robert a Shoemaker
Phoebe Johnson, X, of full age, sp of Garratts Lane, d of Benjamin a Nailer
by banns
Wit - Elijah Haden, Elizabeth Haden, X
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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louloubaby162 wrote:Hi Guys

Just read through your wonderful posts. Thank you so much for looking up info for me.

This is what i know.

Edwin Johnson, born c1840 in Rowley Regis
Married Mary Boswell.

The part where i get stuck is that i have no official documents for Edwin(1840) on his marriage record it lists his father as being William Johnson - Dealer?

If he was illegitimate why is his father present at his marriage?

The reason i feel that this Edwin is my Edwin is because its the right year, 1840, the right area Rowley Regis and the address that he is living at in 1841 is near to where i have found other relatives living. The only thing puzzling me is him being illegitimate and Phoebe would'nt be a Johnson if she married into the family.

Really stuck with this one!


Do the witnesses help?
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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grangers14 wrote:
louloubaby162 wrote:Hi Guys

Just read through your wonderful posts. Thank you so much for looking up info for me.

This is what i know.

Edwin Johnson, born c1840 in Rowley Regis
Married Mary Boswell.

The part where i get stuck is that i have no official documents for Edwin(1840) on his marriage record it lists his father as being William Johnson - Dealer?

If he was illegitimate why is his father present at his marriage?

The reason i feel that this Edwin is my Edwin is because its the right year, 1840, the right area Rowley Regis and the address that he is living at in 1841 is near to where i have found other relatives living. The only thing puzzling me is him being illegitimate and Phoebe would'nt be a Johnson if she married into the family.

Really stuck with this one!


Do the witnesses help?


Need the cert for the other witness

8 May 1870
Edwin Johnson F B Carter Cradley Heath William Johnson Dealer
Mary Boswell M S Netherton John Boswell Engineer
Witnesses John Arnold, ?
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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They put anything down for the father we find on lookups even their own father
suppose to be respectable
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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There's a record of a Birth:
Edwin JOHNSON jul/Sept. 1839 @ Dudley
Vol. 18. page.322
Have you sent for Birth Cert. from Dudley Arch.
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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sparkstopper wrote:There's a record of a Birth:
Edwin JOHNSON jul/Sept. 1839 @ Dudley
Vol. 18. page.322
Have you sent for Birth Cert. from Dudley Arch.


it would be the Regis office is that the Sedgley or Tipton one on bmsgh?
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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Fs where did you get this from?
8 May 1870
Edwin Johnson F B Carter Cradley Heath William Johnson Dealer
Mary Boswell M S Netherton John Boswell Engineer
Witnesses John Arnold, ?
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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googled it.. :wink:
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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On BCC is this

Christening Notes
[Christening notes]IGI Edwin Johnson Christening: 20 SEP 1840 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Parents: Mother: Phebe Johnson Extracted

and from transcripts..20 Sept 1840 St Giles Rowley Regis Edwin bas born s of Phebe Johnson Old Hill



No mention of a father?
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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grangers14 wrote:On BCC is this

Christening Notes
[Christening notes]IGI Edwin Johnson Christening: 20 SEP 1840 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Parents: Mother: Phebe Johnson Extracted

and from transcripts..20 Sept 1840 St Giles Rowley Regis Edwin bas born s of Phebe Johnson Old Hill



No mention of a father?


no he is base born illegitimate I missed the e off :grin:
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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FarSide wrote:googled it.. :wink:


Ok :wink: prob Mr B's :grin:

Lou lou if you have the certif can you post the details pls and we can add to BCC that marriage

if anyone can add the census for edwin with wife that would be great
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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Northern Lass wrote:
sparkstopper wrote:There's a record of a Birth:
Edwin JOHNSON jul/Sept. 1839 @ Dudley
Vol. 18. page.322
Have you sent for Birth Cert. from Dudley Arch.


it would be the Regis office is that the Sedgley or Tipton one on bmsgh?


Edwin JOHNSON 1939 Tipton
Sandwell Reg.Off. TIP/4/357
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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I have the marriage certificate for Edwin and Mary.
Witness John Arnold was a lodger.

Can someone list the 1841 census for Benjamin Johnson pls.

Do you think that going on the evidence i have that i am on the right track with this Edwin.

I sent for the Edwin Johnson born 1839 Dudley, but it did not match any of my information the father was listed as John Johnson. Address was nowhere near all my other family.
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Re: Edwin Johnson

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On BCC

1841 New Street Rowley Regis
Benjamin Johnson 62 nail maker
Mary Johnson 58
John Johnson 30 nail m
Phebe Johnson 23
Benjamin Johnson 20
Samuel Johnson 16
Edwin Johnson 2
all y to b in C
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