ARC tbc - Blanco relative search hit brick wall need help!

[wallydog]

Hi
I'm new to this forum.
I have been researching my family tree but have now now hit a brick wall!
I have traced a relative to the Philippine Islands called Emilio Blanco born around 1851. He was mentioned on the 1871 cencus at the earliest as a nephew
to Pedro Blanco living in Liverpool. The place of birth is Spaniard, but on a later census he is down as Philippine Islands. I am trying to find his birth certificate and
where his father came from Francisco (as named on his marraige certificate). I would also like to find out his mothers name.

Any information or help would be grateful.

I have visited The National Archives to find out how he got to the UK but have found no info.

Many thanks

[Maths girl]

Have you got this certificate? does it have any witnesses on it?

1868
Pedro Blanco 1868 Birkenhead (1861-1998) Cheshire, Merseyside
William Garner 1868 Birkenhead (1861-1998) Cheshire, Merseyside
Martha Kendall 1868 Birkenhead (1861-1998) Cheshire, Merseyside
Sarah Wheeler 1868 Birkenhead (1861-1998) Cheshire, Merseyside

[Maths girl]

here is the 1871
1871 Chatham Street, Liverpool
BLANCO, Pedro Head M 33 1838 Spain Ship Broker
BLANCO, Martha Wife F 21 1850 Lancashire
BLANCO, Emilo ? Nephew M 20 1851 Spain Clerk
BLANCO, Felipe S Son M 1 1870 Lancashire
BLANCO, Louis P Son M 16 days old 1871 Lancashire
LEED, Margaret F 51 1820 Lancashire Midwife
SPRATT, Ellen Servant F 20 1851 Lancashire Domestic Servant
WHITEHEAD, Alice Servant F 17 1854 Cheshire Domestic Servant


1891 4, Northleigh Houses, Green Lane, Evington, Leicester
BLANCO, Emilio Head Married M 39 1852 Clicker Shoe Trade Philipine Islands
BLANCO, Emmeline Wife Married F 34 1857 Hackney London
BLANCO, Francisco Son Single M 14 1877 Clickers Apprentice Shoe Trade Dalston London
BLANCO, Emmeline Lizzie Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Bristol
BLANCO, Edward Son M 8 1883 Leeds Yorkshire
BLANCO, Ada Daughter F 2 1889 Leicester

This is a big drop in occuption from clerk to Ship Broker did he marry beneath him??

[Maths girl]

1901 12, Southdown Road, Leicester
BLANCO, Francisco Head Married M 24 1877 Shoe Clicker London
BLANCO, Elizabeth Wife Married F 25 1876 Shoe Machinist Leicester
BLANCO, Donna Daughter Single F 3 1898 Leicester
BLANCO, Florence Daughter Single F 0 (7 MOS) 1901 Leicester
SHELTON, Tamer Aunt Widow F 49 1852 Shoe Fitter Stafford

[Maths girl]

Is this death of any use?

1864 Francisco Blanco
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West London
County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 47

or this one?

1923 Emilip Blanco (Emilio on index)
Death Registration Month/Year: 1923
Age at death (estimated): 68 (birth approx 1855)
Registration district: Billesdon
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 37

[Maths girl]

Emilio 1901

1901 68, St Saviours Road East, Leicester
JARVIS, James Head Widower M 45 1856 Hosiery Warehouseman Leicester Leicestershire
JARVIS, Gertrude Daughter Single F 23 1878 Leicester Leicestershire
JARVIS, Eva Daughter Single F 21 1880 Hosiery Linker Leicester Leicestershire
JARVIS, Emma Daughter Single F 18 1883 Shoe Stock Room Woman Leicester Leicestershire
BLANCO, Emilio Boarder Widower M 45 1856 Shoe Clicker Phillipe Islands British Subject Asia Other Countries
BLANCO, Emmeline Boarder Single F 20 1881 Bristol Gloucestershire
BLANCO, Ada Boarder Single F 12 1889 Leicester Leicestershire


1911 62 St Saviours Road East Leicester
JARVIS, James Head Widower M 55 1856 Hosiery Warehouseman Leicestershire Leicester
JARVIS, Gertrude Daughter Single F 32 1879 At Home Leicestershire Leicester
JARVIS, Emma Daughter Single F 28 1883 Stock Room Shoes Leicestershire Leicester
BLANCO, Elizabeth Boarder Single F 30 1881 At Home Glouc Bristol
BLANCO, Ada Boarder Single F 22 1889 Stock Room Shoes Leicester Leicester

1911 39 Rolleston Street North Evington Leicester
HALL, Clara Jane Head Married F 53 1858 Boarding House Keeper Bow London
HALL, Leonard Vincent Son Single M 16 1895 Leicestershire Leicester
HALL, Irene Charlotte Mary Daughter F 14 1897 Leicestershire Leicester
BLANCO, Emilio Boarder Widower M 51 1860 Book Keeper And Clicker Philipine Islands Resident

[wallydog]

Thankyou so much Maths girl for all your replies.
I have most of the census information except for the 1911, many thanks for that!
I will look into the marraige certificate also!

Any ideas on where I could access info about their entry into this country? Other than go to the Philippines I'm not sure how to access birth records for Emilio.

Many thanks once again!

[Maths girl]

Is one of these a possibility for Francisco -- it says he is a merchant

Francisco Blanco
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Arrival Date: 23 Jan 1851
Port of Departure: West Indies
Ship: Trent
Country of Origin/Native of: Peru
Class: HO 3
Piece: 59
this one states he is a merchant on the original


Francisco Blanco
Port of Arrival: Dover, England
Arrival Date: 28 Jan 1852
Country of Origin/Native of: Spainsh American
Class: HO 2
Certificate Number: 49

Original has his signature but no other info

I don't know how you can find out any more info than this --maybe someone else can enlighten us.

[Maths girl]

Is this the uncle?

Pedro Blanco
Port of Arrival: Folkestone, England
Arrival Date: 2 Aug 1848
Country of Origin/Native of: Spain
Class: HO 2
Certificate Number: 1972

[wallydog]

Wow thanks again Maths girl!

Which search engine did you find this info from?
The Uncle is a definate possibility, do any of them say they have Emilio Blanco travelling with them please?
All the info I have on them starts in Liverpool, but that's not to say that they travelled up there. I just presumed that they docked into Liverpool, but Emilio has travelled all over the UK. His kids have been born all over - Bristol, Bath, Leeds, London, Leicester.

You may be able to help me with this odd piece of info: On the 1891 census it states that Emilio and Emmeline (his wife) had two children in 1877. Francisco was born in London, but then I found Alberto born in the same year (in Leeds) residing at a naughty boys school in Halifax in 1891 census. How could they be born the same year? I cannot find any birth certificate for Francisco born in Dalston, London, but have Alberto's.

Many thanks again this has helped me a great deal.

[Maths girl]

Which search engine did you find this info from? Ancestry

[Maths girl]

You may be able to help me with this odd piece of info: On the 1891 census it states that Emilio and Emmeline (his wife) had two children in 1877. Francisco was born in London, but then I found Alberto born in the same year (in Leeds) residing at a naughty boys school in Halifax in 1891 census. How could they be born the same year? I cannot find any birth certificate for Francisco born in Dalston, London, but have Alberto's.

I am not sure what you are asking here -- isn't this the 1891 census
1891 4, Northleigh Houses, Green Lane, Evington, Leicester
BLANCO, Emilio Head Married M 39 1852 Clicker Shoe Trade Philipine Islands
BLANCO, Emmeline Wife Married F 34 1857 Hackney London
BLANCO, Francisco Son Single M 14 1877 Clickers Apprentice Shoe Trade Dalston London
BLANCO, Emmeline Lizzie Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Bristol
BLANCO, Edward Son M 8 1883 Leeds Yorkshire
BLANCO, Ada Daughter F 2 1889 Leicester

Do you mean the 1881 census that I haven't been able to track down yet?

As to two children in the same year -- remember the census only records ages and the year of birth is calculated from that -- and so can be out -- the two boys could in theory have been born 9 months apart in different places and still be recorded as the same age.

[Maths girl]

Is this the 1891 that you referred to : did he make good then see 1901/1911?

1891 Industrial School Of The Good Shepherd, Southowram Nr Halifax
BLANCO, Albert School Boy Single M 13 1878 Leeds Yorkshire

1901 199, Argyle Street, Leicester
BLANCO, Alberto Head Married M 23 1878 Telephone Wireman Leeds Yorkshire
BLANCO, Elizabeth Wife Married F 20 1881 Corset Flowerer Leicester
BLANCO, Edward Son Single M 0 (1 MOS) 1901 Leicester

1911 31 Chancel St Sheffield
BLANCO, Albert Head Married M 32 1879 Tool Grinder Yorks Leeds
BLANCO, Elizabeth Wife Married 11 years F 30 1881 Milton Northampton
BLANCO, Edward Son M 10 1901 School Leicestershire Leicester
BLANCO, Emily Daughter F 6 1905 School Yorks Sheffield
BLANCO, Minnie Daughter F 3 1908 Yorks Sheffield
FRANCIS, William Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Yorks Sheffield

[Maths girl]

Have you got this certificate?
Francisco Blanco 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire
James Arthur Mobbs 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire
Martha Elizabeth Morton 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire Presuming from 1901 census name of wife
Florence Frances Parr 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire

It might give more clues

[wallydog]

Have you got this certificate?
Francisco Blanco 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire I will look into this certificate thanks - is this the marraige cert? James Arthur Mobbs 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire - Not quite sure who this is?
Martha Elizabeth Morton 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire Presuming from 1901 census name of wife. Yes I believe this is his wife's maiden name.Florence Frances Parr 1898 Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire

It might give more clues

Many thanks again - you have been very kind looking up all that information.