*Arc tbc 24 hrs* --------Verifying a rumour

[brickwalls]

There is a rumour in my family that my father's grandfather was in the Orange Order, but none of my living relatives can either confirm or deny this, as they themselves are only aware of the rumour.

Is there a way I could find out definitively whether or not he was indeed in the Order? If so, what sort of information would I need to provide?

[peterd]

first question where did he live when he was surpose to be in the order ?, did they keep records?

[brickwalls]

I don't really know. I've not got much knowledge of that side of my family.

[peterd]

here a link to the midland base of the english part of the order there a cantact email

http://www.orangeorder.us/

i dont Know and me being a good catholic boy

[peterd]

I don't really know. I've not got much knowledge of that side of my family.

give us what name and dates and area you have his sons /gransons etc

[grangers14]

Can anymore be added to this?
Jo

[brickwalls]

Hi,

Sorry about that, I'd lost the link to this forum. If it weren't for an email I received I would have lost out on this help.

I've lost contact with that side of my family, so the most I can provide unfortunately is rough dates.

My father was born in 1957 in Manchester, to a man called Harry Johnston. Harry was married in 1946, however he served in the Royal Navy as a Submariner, so we're working on a conservative birth year of around 1925. That is as far back as I can get at the minute. I'm currently searching the BMD records for information, however information isn't too forthcoming.

EDIT: Found a possible record for Harry. Born Manchester S in 1926 to a woman who's maiden name was Honey.

Further possible information: Only marriage registration I can find between 1900 and 1926 is between Walter Johnston and Unknown Honey was in 1913 in Chorlton.

[peterd]

do you have a copy of your father birth cert if so post details

[grangers14]

Glad you found us again then!
I'll take archive status off.
Jo

[brickwalls]

do you have a copy of your father birth cert if so post details

I'm afraid not.

I've sent an email off to a relative who might be able to help, although I'm not sure of when I'd get a reply.

[Jimmy]

Marriages Jun 1913.
Baker Daniel. Grimshaw Chorlton. 8c. 1477.
Grimshaw Beatrice A. Baker. Chorlton. 8c 1477.
Honey Nellie. Johnston. Chorlton. 8c. 1477.
Johnston Walter. Honey. Chorlton. 8c. 1477.

[Jimmy]

1891. 15 Ambrose St, Chorlton On Medlock.
George Honey 32. Clerk to plumber.
Mary Honey 33.
Alfred Honey 11.
Hester Honey 9.
William Honey 7.
Herbert Honey 5.
Nellie Honey 3.
Charlie Honey 2.
Arthur Honey 1.
Georgina Smith 53. Visitor.

[Jimmy]

1901.
George Honey 42. General labourer.
Mary Honey 43.
Alfred Honey 21.
Bertha Honey 19.
William Henry Honey 17.
Herbert Honey 15.
Helen Honey 13.
Charles Honey 11.
George Honey 8.

[brickwalls]

Thank you very much Jimmy, that's helped a lot

Just noticed, her name appears to have changed some time between 1891 and 1901. Is this common?

[Jimmy]

I think she is Nellie in 1911, but I don't have full access. Helen was another form of Nellie.

Births Sep 1887.
HONEY Nelly. Chorlton. 8c. 840.