I think Matilda marries edward willetts
1904
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILLETTS Edward SMITH Matilda Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/043/188
1901 Bannister St Rowley Regis,
William Haynes h wid 64 Carter coal b Cradley Heath
William Haynes son 40 wid Coal miner below ground Born Cradley Heath
Alice Haynes G.dau 17 chainmaker b Old Hill
Job Haynes G.son 15 ??? striker b Old Hill
Matilda Smith dau? 30 b Cradley Heath
Edward Willetts boarder wid 44
Felix Willetts boarder 18
Sarah Willetts boarder 14
Beatrice Willetts boarder 10
All others born Cradley Heath
William Haynes
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Re: William Haynes
I am adding this but still not too sure
can anyone come up with where they are in 1861 pls
and who Wm Haynes snr married
and
is there Matilda on 1911 census pls poss now with an Edward Willetts
can anyone come up with where they are in 1861 pls
and who Wm Haynes snr married
and
is there Matilda on 1911 census pls poss now with an Edward Willetts
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Re: William Haynes
Can someone post the 1911 for William Haynes born about 1837 pls
1901 Bannister St Rowley Regis,
William Haynes h wid 64 Carter coal b Cradley Heath
William Haynes son 40 wid Coal miner below ground Born Cradley Heath
Alice Haynes G.dau 17 chainmaker b Old Hill
Job Haynes G.son 15 ??? striker b Old Hill
Matilda Smith dau? 30 b Cradley Heath
Edward Willetts boarder wid 44
Felix Willetts boarder 18
Sarah Willetts boarder 14
Beatrice Willetts boarder 10
All others born Cradley Heath
1901 Bannister St Rowley Regis,
William Haynes h wid 64 Carter coal b Cradley Heath
William Haynes son 40 wid Coal miner below ground Born Cradley Heath
Alice Haynes G.dau 17 chainmaker b Old Hill
Job Haynes G.son 15 ??? striker b Old Hill
Matilda Smith dau? 30 b Cradley Heath
Edward Willetts boarder wid 44
Felix Willetts boarder 18
Sarah Willetts boarder 14
Beatrice Willetts boarder 10
All others born Cradley Heath
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Re: William Haynes
This works as all the same family if we work thru matilda
Births Jun 1863
HAINES Matilda Glover Wolverhampton 6b 497
Matilda on 1871 is b W'ton aged 8---so dob ok and place ok
she is in deffo the same family in 1881 but now aged 17 and born Netherton --so place incorrect and age bit out
she is then aged 24 on 1891 and born Wton ...place of birth good but age shoulod be 27/8
but her marriage has father Wm a waggoner
and her age on marriage is out she puts aged 20!
1901 age is 30 so out and place C.Heath....but it is her as Matilda Smith
so I think it is the correct line
Births Jun 1863
HAINES Matilda Glover Wolverhampton 6b 497
Matilda on 1871 is b W'ton aged 8---so dob ok and place ok
she is in deffo the same family in 1881 but now aged 17 and born Netherton --so place incorrect and age bit out
she is then aged 24 on 1891 and born Wton ...place of birth good but age shoulod be 27/8
but her marriage has father Wm a waggoner
and her age on marriage is out she puts aged 20!
1901 age is 30 so out and place C.Heath....but it is her as Matilda Smith
so I think it is the correct line
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Re: William Haynes
Trying to find a marrige ....................
Marriages Sep 1851
Haynes William Wolverhampton 17 406 ------------------------------------no Mary
is this one....
29 Sep 1851 St.Geo.
William Haynes full b Bricklayer Duke Street Thomas Haynes Bricklayer & Mary Ann Steel full s x -- Duke Street William Steel Grinder
B
William Walker & Harriett Haynes
P.S.Desprez
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25 Dec 1857 St.Mary----------------------------------------no Mary
William Haynes full w Labourer Cannock Road Herbert Haynes Deceased & Mary Probert full w x Cannock Road Thomas Holmes Deceased
B
John & Mary Holmes
George Fraser
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5 Jun 1856 Ettingshall--------------------------------no Maria
William Haynes 40 b Groom Ettingshall Thomas Haynes Servant & Maria Whittingham 33 s x Servant Ettingshall John Whittingham Overlooker
B
Joseph Caddick & Lucy Hartle
C.W.Richards
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Marriages Mar 1852
Haynes William Shifnal 6a 820 --------------------------------------------------no too old
is this one....
WILLIAM HAYNES
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HAYNES
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH BUTCHER Marriage: 20 MAR 1852 Blymhill, Stafford,
Husband Age at Marriage: 48
Wife Age at Marriage: 45
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Dont know
Marriages Mar 1853 ----------------------------------------------------think Thomas Bromley marries Elizabeth Morris
so possible.....
BROMLEY Thomas Wolverhampton 6b 496
HAINES William Wolverhampton 6b 496
HAMPTON Sarah Wolverhampton 6b 496
MORRIS Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 496
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Dont know
Marriages Dec 1856 ------------------------------------possible
Haynes William Dudley 6c 30
Lilley Thomas Dudley 6c 30
Tilley Sarah Dudley 6c 30
Welch Sarah Dudley 6c 30
1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAYNES William TILLEY Sarah Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/002/494
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Marriages Sep 1851
Haynes William Wolverhampton 17 406 ------------------------------------no Mary
is this one....
29 Sep 1851 St.Geo.
William Haynes full b Bricklayer Duke Street Thomas Haynes Bricklayer & Mary Ann Steel full s x -- Duke Street William Steel Grinder
B
William Walker & Harriett Haynes
P.S.Desprez
-------------------------
25 Dec 1857 St.Mary----------------------------------------no Mary
William Haynes full w Labourer Cannock Road Herbert Haynes Deceased & Mary Probert full w x Cannock Road Thomas Holmes Deceased
B
John & Mary Holmes
George Fraser
------------------------
5 Jun 1856 Ettingshall--------------------------------no Maria
William Haynes 40 b Groom Ettingshall Thomas Haynes Servant & Maria Whittingham 33 s x Servant Ettingshall John Whittingham Overlooker
B
Joseph Caddick & Lucy Hartle
C.W.Richards
--------------------
Marriages Mar 1852
Haynes William Shifnal 6a 820 --------------------------------------------------no too old
is this one....
WILLIAM HAYNES
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HAYNES
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH BUTCHER Marriage: 20 MAR 1852 Blymhill, Stafford,
Husband Age at Marriage: 48
Wife Age at Marriage: 45
---------------------------
Dont know
Marriages Mar 1853 ----------------------------------------------------think Thomas Bromley marries Elizabeth Morris
so possible.....
BROMLEY Thomas Wolverhampton 6b 496
HAINES William Wolverhampton 6b 496
HAMPTON Sarah Wolverhampton 6b 496
MORRIS Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 496
-----------------------
Dont know
Marriages Dec 1856 ------------------------------------possible
Haynes William Dudley 6c 30
Lilley Thomas Dudley 6c 30
Tilley Sarah Dudley 6c 30
Welch Sarah Dudley 6c 30
1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAYNES William TILLEY Sarah Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/002/494
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Re: William Haynes
I think this is it
3 Feb 1853 St.Peters
William Haines full b Butty Collier Tipton Job Haines Butty Collier
&
Sarah Hampton full s Lichfield Street Joseph Hampton Victualler
Lic
James Cope & T.Holding
J.Osmond Dakeyne
the name Job!! for his father
3 Feb 1853 St.Peters
William Haines full b Butty Collier Tipton Job Haines Butty Collier
&
Sarah Hampton full s Lichfield Street Joseph Hampton Victualler
Lic
James Cope & T.Holding
J.Osmond Dakeyne
the name Job!! for his father
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Re: William Haynes
Added all this lot
so thanks everyone this is now Completed
so thanks everyone this is now Completed