*Completed?* Family lost before 1901!

[Fatman]

I've found this record in the 1901 census:

Civil parish: Dawdon
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaham Harbour St John
Town: Seaham Harbour
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Dawdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 272
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Smith 40
Mary Smith 43
Mary H Smith 19
William Smith 9
Robert Smith 6
Norman Smith 3
Wilfred Smith 1

But cant find anything concrete in a previous census!

Any help pls?

[peterd]

I've found this record in the 1901 census:

Civil parish: Dawdon
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaham Harbour St John
Town: Seaham Harbour
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Dawdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 272
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Smith 40
Mary Smith 43
Mary H Smith 19
William Smith 9
Robert Smith 6
Norman Smith 3
Wilfred Smith 1

But cant find anything concrete in a previous census!

Any help pls?

you need to add his occupation where born and same for his wife and kids as this will help with the search as there a lot of ben smiths about ?

[Fatman]

Apologies

Benjamin smith born Gateshead Durham. Miner.
Mary smith born seaham harbour, Durham

I assume they are married before 1882 as this is when their first daughter is born

[Jimmy]

1901.
Benjamin Smith 40. Coal screener.
Mary Smith 43.
Mary H Smith 19.
William Smith 9.
Robert Smith 6.
Norman Smith 3.
Wilfred Smith 1.

[Jimmy]

Apologies

Benjamin smith born Gateshead Durham. Miner.
Mary smith born seaham harbour, Durham

I assume they are married before 1882 as this is when their first daughter is born

You may be assuming wrong, there is a 10 year gap between Mary and William.

1901.
Benjamin Smith 40. Coal screener.
Mary Smith 43.
Mary H Smith 19.
William Smith 9.
Robert Smith 6.
Norman Smith 3.
Wilfred Smith 1.

[Fatman]

Hmm you might be right! But still can't find Benjamin or Mary (the daughter) anywhere?

[Maths girl]

Hmm you might be right! But still can't find Benjamin or Mary (the daughter) anywhere?

benjamin could be dead and MAry could be married

[Jimmy]

Are they on 1911 census.

[grangers14]

1911, 39 Frederick St Seaham Harbour

SMITH, Mary Head Widow F 51 1860 Durham Seaham Harbour. 9 children 4 still living.
SMITH, William Son Single M 19 1892 Coal Miner Putter Below Ground Durham Seaham Harbour
SMITH, Robert Son Single M 16 1895 Coal Miner Shaft Lad Below Ground Durham Seaham Harbour
SMITH, Norman Son M 12 1899 School Durham Seaham Harbour
SMITH, Wilfred Son M 11 1900 School Durham Seaham Harbour

[Fatman]

yep that looks like them!
So Benjamin died before 1911 - great!

But just strange why i cant find benjamin or mary the daughter (who should have been 9) on the 1891 census!

[Jimmy]

I don't suppose it says how long married on 1911 census.

[grangers14]

No it dont Jimmy.
Jo

[Jimmy]

Long shot,
A possible for Mary. age is about right.

1891. New Seaham.
Edward Dawson 27.
Margaret Dawson 24.
Frederick Dawson 4.
Ada Dawson 4.
Mary Smith 32. Widow. sempstress. New Seaham.

A bit far away.
Marriages Sep 1889.
AMBLER William Henry Halifax 9a 717.
Lakey Jane Halifax 9a 717.
Smith Benjamin Halifax 9a 717.
Smith Mary Halifax 9a 717.

[Fatman]

Hmm Could well be her in 1891 but a widow already! HMM!

And halifax does seem a bit far from durham!

[Jimmy]

Its possible that is her in 1891, before she met Ben Smith and that Mary born 1882 is Ben's Daughter, and both having the surname Smith they may not have married.