*ARC TBC* - Clarence Henry Stephens & Gladys Henfrey

[jlbriggs]

Hi yes Florence is the one.
I found it by scrolling through the BMD indexes when I had full membership on Ancest*y but its not on the Free BMD but it was chorlton and she was Gladys and mother was HENFREY. Unfortuntely I didnt put the volume number etc but I was new at this and didnt realise it was improtant but now I have moved PCs and dont have it. Sorry but thanks for looking
Thanks

[Northern Lass]

Ok found it on ances

Gladys Stephens 1916 dec qtr mother Henfrey 8c 117 Chorlton

so wonder if there is a marriage on ances not on free bmd for Stephens and henfrey

[peterd]

think were going to have to wait and see what that birth cert you sent for for clarence 1912 says also could do with getting a copy of the wedding cert 1937 to verify was you think that was on it pete

[Northern Lass]

JL can you give us the stepfathers name?

when did Gladys henfrey die? do you know when she was born and where?

[jlbriggs]

Found the Cert :Clarence H Stephens aged 25 on Marr Cert to Florence Beckett 10/4/1937 St Thomas Ardwick (Manchester) Bachelor paper maker
address 78 Higher Ardwick.
Witnesses HAROLD JONES & GLADYS STEPHENS Clarence H placed father as deceased with same name theatrical agent. This is as far as I got. I found CH Stephens marr A Dillworth in Derby and think I found them later still in Derby and a death in the same area but as he had Gladys 1916 didnt think it was this man (unless there was another and she kept names etc for appearences) as he marr Alice in 1915.
There seems to be lots of Clarence Stephens but I can only find 1 with Henry. My mother said her father never talked about his parents and so there is nothing to go on. She did say thought that Ardwick was where many actors and theatres and "lodgers" stayed at the time so perhaps we will never know.

[jlbriggs]

Hi this is the non starter on Gladys also - My mum knows nothing of her and (my grandad has died to ask) but she only remembers her fatehr being upset about it and that this man had not been who he seemed I think he as quite ashamed and didnt speak anything more of it so I am at a loss there. Also Gladys is like a scarlet pimpernell no record of birth, death marriage. My mum never mentioned an accent or reason to believe she was from anywhere else...Just complete mystery.

[peterd]

8c 117 is only showing wigan and warrington entries so there must be chorlton entries missing of fbmd

[Northern Lass]

JL! talk to me!

when did she die Gladys and who was the stepfather and when was she born!

tell me!

[Northern Lass]

Ok no birth or death but who was the stepfather his name do you know that

[jlbriggs]

no thats what Im saying he never spoke of it its just what my mum was told by the family

[peterd]

send for her birth cert see who the father is

[Northern Lass]

I have looked on the complete indexes from 1909-1913 and cannot see a marriage between that couple
stephens and henfrey

could do with someone with ancestry just double checking .....

[jlbriggs]

thanks - Im wondering if they ever married and she just took his name but why cant I find her birth?

[Jimmy]

The only Stephens, Henfrey I can see is this one.

Marriages Dec 1911.
Brown Arthur Derby 7b 1252.
Henfrey Millicent Derby 7b 1252.
Stevens William H Derby 7b 1252.
THOMPSON Ivy G Derby 7b 1252.

[jlbriggs]

thanks for looking though - Ive sent away for my Grandads birth cert to see if Gladys and Clarence H (Snr) are on there or anything diff...