*Arc tbc* ---Joseph Amos

[kdw]

Married 12 May 1862 St Thomas Dudley
Joseph Amos X Minor Bachleor Anchorsmith Dudley Oliver Amos Anchorsmith
Mary Ann Kendall Raybould X Minor Dudley No Fathers name
Wit: Joseph Raybould X Emma Raybould

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Can anyone find Joseph on census ?

Kaye

[MarkCDodd]

I would say this is them minus Joseph. He is not dead as Mary Ann says she is married.....

SHe would have been a minor at the time of the marriage.

1871 census transcription details for: Dudley Wood, Dudley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 3017 Folio: 133 Page: 28

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Dudley
Parish: Dudley Enum. District: 48
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Dudley
Address: Dudley Wood, Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
AMOS, Mary Ann Head F 24 1847 Worcestershire
AMOS, Oliver Son M 7 1864 Worcestershire
AMOS, Dina Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire
AMOS, Caroline Daughter F 2 1869 Worcestershire
AMOS, Joseph Son M 0 1871 Worcestershire

[MarkCDodd]

I would say Joseph is in the armed forces as I can;t find him anywhere but his wife and kids are still around

1881 census transcription details for: 60, New Town Lane, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2862 Folio: 46 Page: 30

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 60, New Town Lane, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
AMOS, Mary A Head Married F 32 1849 Chain Maker
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
AMOS, Oliver Son Single M 16 1865 Chain Maker
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
AMOS, Dinah Daughter Single F 14 1867 Domestic Servant
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
AMOS, Caroline Daughter Single F 12 1869
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
AMOS, Joseph Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
AMOS, William Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
AMOS, James Son Single M 2 1879
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
AMOS, George Son Single M 1 1880
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire

[Maths girl]

I would say Joseph is in the armed forces as I can;t find him anywhere but his wife and kids are still around

I was wondering about prison but had the same problem in my head as with the armed forces -- the children are coming very regularly

If he is in the armed forces and stationed at home shouldn't he still appear on the census?

[Maths girl]

I would say Joseph is in the armed forces as I can;t find him anywhere but his wife and kids are still around

I was wondering about prison but had the same problem in my head as with the armed forces -- the children are coming very regularly

If he is in the armed forces and stationed at home shouldn't he still appear on the census?

Having said that - as I can't find any of the Amos' clan on the 1891 did Joseph die mid 1880's and Mary Ann remarry? or was that when he was stationed abroad and took them all with him.

Did they include personal serving abroad on census?

[MarkCDodd]

If he was in the Navy then he would appear on some census as they were taken aboard the ships.

If he was stationed in a Marine or Army barracks in England he would also appear on the census.

If he was in prison he would appear on the census.

Maybe he was one of those people who just didn't trust the purpose of the census and made himself scarce when it came around?

[peterd]

or just down the pub most nights

[kdw]

Don't know if this helps
Births
Births Dec 1848
Amos Joseph Smith Dudley 18 31[79]

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Joseph Amos
Date of Trial: 6 Apr 1868
Trial Year: 1868
Location of Trial: Worcestershire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Larceny (After a previuos Conviction) 12 1/2 Mths

Joseph Smith Amos
Date of Trial: 1 Jul 1872
Trial Year: 1872
Location of Trial: Staffordshire, England
Sentence: Acquittal
Larceny (before convicted) Not Guilty

[Jimmy]

or just down the pub most nights

I'll drink to that.

[peterd]

Married 12 May 1862 St Thomas Dudley
Joseph Amos X Minor Bachleor Anchorsmith Dudley Oliver Amos Anchorsmith
Mary Ann Kendall Raybould X Minor Dudley No Fathers name
Wit: Joseph Raybould X Emma Raybould

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Can anyone find Joseph on census ?

Kaye

with a name like kendall raybould i asume there must be kendall in here line somewhere ?

[peterd]

wonder if mary ann was born illagitmatly and her mother married a kendal afterwards ?

as this would fit ?

RAYBOULD Mary A KENDAL William 1848 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/001/121

[peterd]

could this be the witnesess

RAYBOULD Joseph UNITT Emma 1853 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/2/179

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Birth 1847.
RAYBOULD Mary A K, Rowley Regis. Sandwell Register Office. RR/10/362.

Births Jun 1847.
Raybould Mary Ann Kendall, Dudley. 18. 29.

[Jimmy]

wonder if mary ann was born illagitmatly and her mother married a kendal afterwards ?

as this would fit ?

RAYBOULD Mary A KENDAL William 1848 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/001/121

Are these the same people.

On the Marriage for Joseph Amos it says Mary Ann was a minor.
So she would have been about 14-15 when she married.

1851. Cradley Heath.
William Kendall 24. Chainmaker.
Mary Ann Kendall 24.
Mary Ann Kendall 4.
William Kendall 1.

1861. Dudley Wood.
William Kendall 36. Carter. Brierly Hill.
Mary Ann Kendall 36. Brierly Hill.
Mary Ann Kendall 13. born Dudley. Chainmaker.
William Kendall 11.
George Kendall 9.
Dorah Kendall 6.
Joseph Kendall 2.
Caroline Kendall 5 Mo.

All others born Dudley.

[Maths girl]

Possible Mary Ann before marriage with brother Joseph later to be witness at marriage??

1841 Rowley Regis
Joseph Raybold 35 Nailer
May Raybold 40 Born out of County
Maryan Raybold 15
Lucy Raybold 14
Joseph Raybold 12
Roseanh Raybold 9
Joshua Raybold 6
Venice Raybold 4
Zabam Raybold 1