*Arc tbc* --Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:09 pm

I can see in 1911: William Griffiths 44 b. Princes End, Polly 39, married in about 1891, daughter Lily single b. about 1896 WB, all living at 15, Cronehill St, West Bromwich, 10 children in all by 1911. Must get to bed, more anon.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:11 pm

Dennis wrote:I can see in 1911: William Griffiths 44 b. Princes End, Polly 39, married in about 1891, daughter Lily single b. about 1896 WB, all living at 15, Cronehill St, West Bromwich, 10 children in all by 1911. Must get to bed, more anon.

What's his occup Dennis ?

the marriage is 1901 though

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:05 pm

William Griffiths was an engine driver in a colliery. He married Polly c. 1891, by 1911 they had 10 children.

I'm still thinking about the similarity between the two names, NL, Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths and Lilian Victoria Griffiths, it seems too great to be coincidental. That said, there was a Lilian Victoria Griffiths born about September 1895 in West Bromwich (the one I mentioned) and also a Lilian Evelyn S. Griffiths born about June 1897 in Wolverhampton.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:26 pm

Sorry, I've been missing the main point :oops:

William Francis Griffiths the father. There were two born in the area in 1867, one in Tipton and one in West Bromwich. Polly's husband was indeed an engine driver. Polly = Mary, I presume.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:15 pm

So on the 1911 census William Griffiths with wife Polly is an engine driver
that has to be our lot then

2nd Dec 1916 Christchurch Oldbury
Samuel Beard- 26- bach- stoker- 52 Dudley Road- William Beard Labourer
Lilian Eveline Victoria Hadley- 21- widow- packer- 3?- Dudley Rd- William Francis Griffiths- Engine driverbanns
X Samuel/ Lilian signed
Wit- William Beard/Elizabeth Griffiths

1901
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GRIFFITHS William F HOLDING Polly F West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office WBRO/36/138

Is this the full 1911 on this lot

I am a bit confused about the exact 1911 census is it this

1911: all living at 15, Cronehill St, West Bromwich,
William Griffiths 44 b. Princes End,
Polly 39,
Lily daughter single b. about 1896 WB,

and is this William Griffiths the one with father Edward/edwin?

Marriage is regis office so cant look it up

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:07 am

This is the family in 1911:

William Griffiths, 44, Engine Driver Colliery, b. Princes End, Tipton;
Polly, 39, married 21 years, b. West Bromwich;
William, 19, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Ernest, 13, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Lily, 15, single, Stamper Washer Iron Holloware, b. W. Brom;
Arthur, 13, Help in Laundry, b. West Brom;
Then: Walter, 9; Edward, 7; Frank, 5; Henry, 3; John, 2; Louie, 6 months, all born in West Bromwich.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:37 pm

Dennis wrote:This is the family in 1911:

William Griffiths, 44, Engine Driver Colliery, b. Princes End, Tipton;
Polly, 39, married 21 years, b. West Bromwich;
William, 19, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Ernest, 13, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Lily, 15, single, Stamper Washer Iron Holloware, b. W. Brom;
Arthur, 13, Help in Laundry, b. West Brom;
Then: Walter, 9; Edward, 7; Frank, 5; Henry, 3; John, 2; Louie, 6 months, all born in West Bromwich.

Ok I think that is our Lilian with father
without ordering that marriage cert...which to be honest I am not doing...papering walls with all the spare ones i have!

do we think this is the one with father Edwin that Dennis flagged
really need to get more info .....

if anyone still wishes to run with this I will leave it open
so flagging for status :grin:

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:29 pm

Can someone please add this to BCC on this link

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

fill in fathers info and mothers info
and that marriage for them

also census info and sibs for Lilian

pls

Annie · Post by **Annie** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:13 pm

Hi Northern Lass I will add this for you.

Annie

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:21 pm

thank you annie

:wink:

Annie · Post by **Annie** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:05 pm

Hi Norther Lass , I've added them anything I've missed or not done correct let me know & I will change tomorrow.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =355456479

Annie :-)

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:14 pm

Hi Annie thank you for that
could you add the marriage to polly please too
:wink:

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:00 pm

Will flag now to archive

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:00 am

Let's hope you added it correctly Annie!!
Those are my relatives you know!! :wink:

xx

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