*Arc *Thomas Garratt Curate of Rowley Regis.

TWG1947 · Post by **TWG1947** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:22 am

There has been some discussion on the forum about Thomas Garratt curate of Rowley Regis,
Here, after a lot of frustration, is my research all of which is referenced based.

Thomas Garratt was born in West Haddon, Northants.
Chn 30th March 1675.

REF: Note to the Ordination List Worcs County records office
And West Haddon Parish records.

His family were new to the parish.
Their names were written phonetically as Gerrard.
At first this put my research off until the full family was listed.

Thomas Gerrard father. c 1645-50
Deborah Gerrard mother c 1645-50

John Gerrard Chn 24 Aug 1671
Susannah Gerrard Chn 10 April 1673. Bur 16 May 1673
THOMAS GERRARD Chn 30 Mar 1675
Edward Gerrard Chn 24 Aug1677. Bur 10 Dec 1678
William Gerrard Chn 20 June 1680
Mary Gerrard Chn 24 Dec 1682
Edward Gerrard Chn 19 May 1685
Elenor Gerrard Chn 03 Dec 1687
Deborah Garret Chn 23 Sept 1690

Mary was married as Garret 21 Jan 1712/13
Deborah was married as Garrett 24 June 1716

Deborah (the mother) was Baptised 22 April 1717 as Deborah Garret
Died on 2 June 1717. she was buried as Garrott.

Thomas the father was buried 22 Sept as Garrett.

Thomas is recorded on entering college as GARRATT

At Rowley:
Thomas Garit (Sic) and Elisabeth Willets
Marriage: 24 JUN 1704 Rowley Regis

Thomas Garratt
Chn 21 MAY 1705 Rowley Regis
Mary Garratt
Chn 11 MAY 1707 Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Garratt
Chn 13 MAY 1709 Rowley Regis

William Garratt
Chn 30 JAN 1711 Studley Warwickshire.
Elenor
Chn 04 MAR 1713 Studley
John Garratt
Chn 21 OCT 1716 Studley.Buried 1 April 1717,Studley
Sarah Garratt
Chn 23 APR 1718 Studley. Buried 5 Dec 1721 Rowley Regis

Note how Thomas's children are named
Except for Elizabeth named after his wife.

I don't know what happened to Thomas after he left Studley,
Only that he gained an MA and was buried at Rowley Regis.
Help please, fact based only.

For those interested I have more information on his education and ordinations etc

All my research is being used by Richard Williams in his book
The Clergy of Staffordshire a Dictionary and Geneology.

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:46 am

here he is on bcc

di and richtea input

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =575586346

linell you have anything on this guy in you parish note books etc ?

may be neville might have something on him ?

FarSide · Post by **FarSide** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:54 am

On RR disc
As written
In 1704, Mr Thomas Garratt married Elizabeth Willetts. He seems to be identical with the curate of Rowley 1698.

Curates in charge of Rowley Regis
1698 Thomas Garratt, Curate

There's a burial
28 Nov 1734 Thomas Garratt. M.A., P.

Poss wife burial
30 Aug 1742 Elizabeth Garratt, wid., P

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:51 pm

Moved to Black Country Genealogy

linell · Post by **linell** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:22 pm

Hi Pete sorry nothing on Garratts before 1806, which were Baptisms at Cradley. They should be on the IGI, but I can add any extra details etc. I checked the 1781 Land Tax Records, no Garratts listed? Will give it some more thought. Linell.

linell · Post by **linell** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:40 pm

Don't know if these are any help or not? From the Halesowen Register:-

4th. May 1663 Marriage of Richard Garrett de Warley Wigon and Alice Hadley.
16th August 1789 Bap Sally d of Julius and Sarah Garrett.
16th September 1792 Bap Mary d of Julius and Sarah Garrett.

Linell.

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:53 pm

linell wrote:Don't know if these are any help or not? From the Halesowen Register:-

4th. May 1663 Marriage of Richard Garrett de Warley Wigon and Alice Hadley.
16th August 1789 Bap Sally d of Julius and Sarah Garrett.
16th September 1792 Bap Mary d of Julius and Sarah Garrett.

Linell.

dont have them on bcc wonder if these two

16th August 1789 Bap Sally d of Julius and Sarah Garrett.
16th September 1792 Bap Mary d of Julius and Sarah Garrett.

belong to these

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =173578064

dont have richard either on bcc

4th. May 1663 Marriage of Richard Garrett de Warley Wigon and Alice Hadley.

linell · Post by **linell** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:08 pm

Must be the same Julius and Sarah wouldn't you think Peter, Married 1787? Probably other children baptised at RR? Best Wishes from Linell.

linell · Post by **linell** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:16 pm

These notes written by Di are from the Indrocution of the RR Transcripts:- Clergyman - Curate of Rowley Regis. `The families of Willetts had two branches, distinguished as `of Portway` or `of Woodside.`In 1704 Mr. Thomas Garratt married Elizabeth Willetts. He seems to be identicalwith the curate of Rowley in 1698.`

Thomas Garratt is also listed as a Curate in the list of Vicar's and Curates.

HTH from Linell.

TWG1947 · Post by **TWG1947** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:01 am

I'm sorry but according to information from the Bishop of Worcester Diocese papers held at Worcs County Archives and Records the person mentioned at bcconnections.tribalpages is wrong.

My information about his place of birth was from their archives shown to me by their chief archivist.

Seems good enough.

Neville Bastable · Post by **Neville Bastable** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:10 am

In my Tree I have 6 times greatgrandparents Thomas Garrett (1679-1734) and Elizabeth Willetts (1688-1742), their son William Garrett (1712-1781) and his daughter Phillis Garrett (1744-1825). Unfortunately I have no other info on them. I don't know whether this helps.
Neville Bastable

TWG1947 · Post by **TWG1947** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:18 am

But were did you get your Thomas as being born in 1679 from?

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:23 am

TWG1947 wrote:I'm sorry but according to information from the Bishop of Worcester Diocese papers held at Worcs County Archives and Records the person mentioned at bcconnections.tribalpages is wrong.

My information about his place of birth was from their archives shown to me by their chief archivist.

Seems good enough.

Hi TWG1947
I have just had a look at your info and on BCC
The person that entered the info is on travels at the moment but we have contacted them
Until resolved I am disconnecting Thomas from Henry
the names of the children look good for a connection to Thomas and Deborah.
This is exactly what we like to happen people to flag up any different information so we can look into it and then amend where necessary

I have amended the dob to an about date for now and will leave the place of birth tbc

Neville Bastable · Post by **Neville Bastable** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:25 am

Sorry TWG1947 I don't know, I didn't put together this particular part of the tree.
Neville

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:27 am

So this is the Thomas with Henry and Margarettae

THOMAS GARRATT Pedigree
Male

Christening: 03 NOV 1679 Lapley, Stafford,

Parents:
Father: HENRICI GARRATT
Mother: MARGARETTAE Extracted

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