Frank Baker 1889.Harry Hill?

[Mabel]

Have original marriage cer. John Baker Mabel Willetts .3rd August 1942.wit Edward Willetts , wit. Harry Baker(brother). Father George Baker edge tool grinder, Father Edward Willetts confectionary manufacturer. John Baker died 21st June 2003 and Mabel 16th March 2010.Shrivenham, Oxfordshire. Hannah died young in her sixties between 1970 and 1972. Oldhill. Jo Brettle married again and died much later.

[mallosa]

Thanks Mabel, I'm going to add to BCC now

What ages does it give for both?

[mallosa]

Hannah died young in her sixties between 1970 and 1972. Oldhill. Jo Brettle married again and died much later

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Marriage 1937
WILLETTS Hannah BRETTLE Joseph E Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/7/388

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Hannah Brettle
Birth Date: 26 Apr 1910
Date of Registration: Mar 1972
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 644

[Mabel]

Mabel Willetts is the youngest daughter of Edward Willetts 1880 confectioner already on tribal

[mallosa]

What I meant was, what ages does it give on the marriage cert for John Baker & Mabel Willetts?

[mallosa]

Think I've got most of it, just waiting for a marriage look up for Hannah Willetts/Joseph Brettle

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =783565137

[Mabel]

Can you pop Gwendoline and Robert Davis on BBC. Lived at 4 Bank Street 1911census. The family later moved to 101 Furnace Lane Halesowen. Gwen married a Jason Willetts it was a late marriage and there were no children. They lived at 101 with her mother Annie nee Baker and Joseph Davies.

[mallosa]

1911: 4 Bank Street, Old Hill, Staffs
Joseph Davies 30 Bricklayer Dudley, Worc
Annie Elizabeth Davies 31 Rowley
Robert Davies 7 Son Rowley
Gwendoline Davies 2 Dau Rowley
(married 8 yrs - children 2/2/0)

Marriage 1952
DAVIES Gwendoline WILLETTS Jason Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/9/177

Here's Annie (Baker) on BCC - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=404494

Is this Joseph Davies - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=404494

[mallosa]

Yes I'm convinced, gonna connect up

[Northern Lass]

most of this looks like it is on bcc now.

If you need any more help with Harry hill let us know what you have and we can move to brickwalls to chip away at.
otherwise will move this to arc.

[Mabel]

Not convinced about my Lizzie Hill born Netherton. May send for BCert. I will come back to Lizzie and Harry Hill later. Someone on the Hill side came from up north to Netherton on the barges. Grandma Lizzie used to show us a white bonnet -used by barge folk. I think it ended up in the BCountry museum. Like to get things right.

[Mabel]

Percy Brettell Jo's father was married to Elsie May Stringer b.1892. The Stringers are in Bank Street No5. Elsie is on BCC.

[mallosa]

Not convinced about my Lizzie Hill born Netherton. May send for BCert. I will come back to Lizzie and Harry Hill later. Someone on the Hill side came from up north to Netherton on the barges. Grandma Lizzie used to show us a white bonnet -used by barge folk. I think it ended up in the BCountry museum. Like to get things right.

Mabel, on the 1891 Census I notice that Florence (sister of Lizzie) is 11 mths old but has been added as 11 yrs old on BCC, would you like me to change it? Also there are 3 more children by 1911 who I have added

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =234450963

[Northern Lass]

I have amended Florence

what are we looking for on Lizzie?
what is the query on her?

[Northern Lass]

So it is the dob for Lizzie isnt it that is the query



so on 1939 it is this
1939 Register for 3 and 4 Bank Street Rowley Regis Staffs.
No.3
George Baker 26/9/1885 Edge Coal Grinder
Elizabeth Baker 16/12/1883
Harry Baker 12/4/1874 ? Railway Porter

but on 1891 she is coming out at abt 1886
1891: Reddal Hill Road, Rowley Regis
John Hill 40 Coal Miner
Emma Hill 38 Wife Kingswinford
Edith Hill 17 Chainmaker
Annie Hill 12
Joseph Hill 9
Ruth Hill 7
Lizzie Hill 5
William Hill 2
Florence Hill 11 mths
Hannah Griffiths 19 Niece
Mary Griffiths 16 Niece
(others born Rowley Regis)

apparently in 1901 she is
1901 in sevice at St Mary's Rd Bearwood

can someone post the census pls what age is she there

marries 1908 so abt 1887
Marriage info by Jan 2 Feb 1908 St Andrews Dudley
-George Baker- 22- bach Labourer- 62 Northfield Rd - James Baker- dead- miner
-Lizzie Hill- 21- spinster- 41a Northfield Rd - John Hill- Iron Worker
banns
both signed
Wit- David Hill and Hannah Baker

1911:3 Bank Street, Old Hill, Staffs
George Baker 25 Head Carpenters Lab
Lizzie Baker 24 Wife Netherton, Worc
George Baker 1 Son Old Hill, Staffs
so again abt 1887