ARC TBC Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

[Jimmy]

It does say Thomas Parkes is only a lodger, could be a relation like cousin.

[Northern Lass]

So what are we saying on this lot cos I have lost the plot

can we add in that birth certif info that Suki/mabel found on first post anywhere on Bcc
and if so where
can you post link so I can add it in.

Then are we saying that Thomas Parkes is son of the Hannah dau of Lucy?

Jimmy can you put a post on with what I put and where
or anyone else what do you think?

[Jimmy]

There are 14 Thomas Parkes born 1854 to 1858 4 in 1856,

1861. Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 44. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 27. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 5. Grand son.

PARKES, THOMAS PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13.

1871. Elbow Steet, Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 64. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 15. Grand Son. Labourer on pit bank.

And another Thomas Parkes.

This one from BCC, which I think is a different one.

1871 Census Cornbow Glazers Yard Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Hackett Head 27 Carter born Halesowen Worcs.
Ann Hackett wife 26 Nail Maker
Thomas Parkes lodger 14 Salesman ?
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

[Jimmy]

Picked up a birth certificate for Ann Parkes born 25th August 1845 mother Mary Parkes residence Garratts Lane. No father named. Tried to fit it in with Ann and Mary Rose ne Parkes Siviters Lane 1851 census living with Abraham Parkes and family. Garratts Lane seems too far away. Though the information might be useful to someone and fit in with some other Ann and Mary Parkes unmarried living in Garratts Lane 1845 ish. Ann Rose is on connections spelt Anne

Mary Parkes here on BCC,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402699

[Jimmy]

There is also this Thomas Parkes,


Worcestershire.Dudley
Church name St Thomas.
Register entry number 457.
Marriage date 26 Oct 1857.
William RUDKIN. full age. bachelor. Dudley. Stone Cutter. Joseph Parkes. Miner.
Ann PARKES. full age. spinster. Father William RUDKIN. Stone Cutter.
Witness Abraham PARISH.
Witness Eliza PARISH.
Register note By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed.


1871. Bennetts End in Cainham, Shropshire.
William Rudkin 36.
Jane Rudkin 25. Rowley Regis.
Sarah J Rudkin 14.
Thomas Rudkin 5.
John Rudkin 3.
Elizabeth A Rudkin 1.
Thomas Parkes 15. Brother in law. Labourer. Rowley Regis
Mary Parkes 56. Mother in law. Rowley Regis.

[grangers14]

I have lost the plot on it too!

Suki has a birth cert for Ann Parkes mother Mary Parkes living Garratts Lane 1845.
I wondered if it belonged to http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402701
I noticed that it is down she has a son Thomas Parkes and I queried it as she would have only been 11...

[Jimmy]

Picked up a birth certificate for Ann Parkes born 25th August 1845 mother Mary Parkes residence Garratts Lane. No father named. Tried to fit it in with Ann and Mary Rose ne Parkes Siviters Lane 1851 census living with Abraham Parkes and family. Garratts Lane seems too far away. Though the information might be useful to someone and fit in with some other Ann and Mary Parkes unmarried living in Garratts Lane 1845 ish. Ann Rose is on connections spelt Anne

Mary Parkes here on BCC,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402699

I think it is the one on the above link

[grangers14]

So you think it is the one we have on BCC Anne Rose but really as Ann Parkes? Suki thought not.

I think Thomas on the other Ann Parkes needs to be disconnected as son here, http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402704
Maybe a link added. It seems Thomas married John Hacketts 2nd wifes daughter. Needs a bit more work on that part of the tree...

[Jimmy]

Can i phone you tomorrow?

[Jimmy]

I just cannot see any link between Ann 1845 and Thomas.

[Northern Lass]

So is there a marriage for that Thomas he marries a Hackett?

what does it say for father on marriage

do we know then which Ann Parkes suki/mabel has the certif for?

[Jimmy]

A Thomas Parkes marries Sarah Ann Pickford, who is the daugther of William and Jane Pickford,
which could be this one,

PARKES, THOMAS PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13.

17 May 1875 at St Andrew, Netherton.
Thomas Parker, F, B, Miner, Netherton, Illegit.
Sarah Ann Pickford, M, S, Netherton, Dec'd.
Wit: Felix Parker, Eliza Danks..


1861 Wrights Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Pickford Head 45 Watchman born N.K. Staffs.
Jane Pickford 26 born N.K. Shrops.
Charlotte Griffiths servant 22 born N.K. Shrops.
Sarah Pickford dau 1 born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1871 Wrights Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Jane Pickford 37 (wid) born Bridgnorth Shrops.
Sarah A. Pickford dau 11 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Meria Pickford dau 9 born Rowley Regis Staffs.


1881 Thomas is a boarder with John Hackett and Jane Pickford.

1881 Census Rumbow Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Hackett Head (wid) 40 Carter born Halesowen Worcs.
Jane Pickford Boarder (wid) 43 Housekeeper born Bridgnorth Salop.
Thomas Parkes boarder 23 Boatman born Hill Worcs.
Sarah Ann Parkes boarder 24 Nailer born Old Hill Staffs.
William Parkes boarder 6 Scholar
Sarah Jane Parkes boarder 3
Martha Parkes boarder 1
Maria Pickford boarder 23 Nailer born Old Hill Staffs.
John Pickford boarder 2 born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Hasbury Worcs.

[Jimmy]

There are 14 Thomas Parkes born 1854 to 1858 4 in 1856,

1861. Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 44. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 27. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 5. Grand son.

1871. Elbow Steet, Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 64. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 15. Grand Son. Labourer on pit bank.

This looks like the same Thomas Parkes to me,

1881. Elbow Steet, Rowley Regis.
Enoch Parkes 50.
Mary Parkes 48.
Joseph Parkes 22.
Caroline Parkes 19.
Hannah Parkes 14.
Mary Ann Parkes 10.
Sarah E. Parkes 7.
Samuel Parkes 3.
Ann Parkes 72. Boarder. widow.
Thos. Parkes 25. Boarder. Labourer at pit bank.

1891. Elbow Street, Rowley Regis.
Enoch Parkes 63. Nail maker.
Mary Parkes 58.
Joseph Parkes 32.
Sarah E Parkes 17.
Samuel Parkes 13.
Thomas Parkes 35. Cousin. Single. General labourer.
All born Rowley Regis.

[Jimmy]

So is there a marriage for that Thomas he marries a Hackett?

what does it say for father on marriage

do we know then which Ann Parkes suki/mabel has the certif for?

I would say that the certificate is for Ann daughter of Mary who married Joseph Rhodes / Rose

[grangers14]

I have added the birth certificate info standing alone with mother as Mary. I don't think there is enough info to confirm any more.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =360935354

I have disconnected Thomas as son of Ann Parkes.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =326106981