UPDATE......Angelina Tromans

[unicorn]

Thomas Tromans died in Cornwall in 1863 at Brodriggy (Cornwall OPC). Angelina was 19 when she married in 1883 which make her birth year 1864 and it is possible that she is Thomas's daughter. The marriage has her naming her father Thomas.
I think that when ThomasTromans died his widow was pregnant and she decided to return to where she was born,taking her children with her.

[gardener]

What about this one? I can't see her in 1871 (not that that means much)


1864
TROMANS Evelina Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/068/194

Births Sep 1864
TROMANS Eveline Stourbridge 6c 218



September qtr could fit with Thomas Troman's death.
I wonder if the Thomas surname in the 1871 census was a response to "What was your wife's former husband called?".

[Northern Lass]

What about this one? I can't see her in 1871 (not that that means much)


1864
TROMANS Evelina Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/068/194

Births Sep 1864
TROMANS Eveline Stourbridge 6c 218



September qtr could fit with Thomas Troman's death.
I wonder if the Thomas surname in the 1871 census was a response to "What was your wife's former husband called?".

That is a possible

is there a bapt for this one at all
I cant get on IGI anymore

can someone look for bapts for other kids ...got the ones Jimmy found

[Northern Lass]

Thomas Tromans died in Cornwall in 1863 at Brodriggy (Cornwall OPC). Angelina was 19 when she married in 1883 which make her birth year 1864 and it is possible that she is Thomas's daughter. The marriage has her naming her father Thomas.
I think that when ThomasTromans died his widow was pregnant and she decided to return to where she was born,taking her children with her.

Do you have that Death certif for thomas?
so you can be sure it is him?

[Northern Lass]

Gardener I think you have cracked it!!

death here on free reg marries with dob
age at death 69


Deaths Mar 1934
Hickman Evelina 69 Stourbridge 6c 48

[Northern Lass]

going to sticky this might try and get that birth certif

wot do others think ...............think it is her?

cant see burial at kingswinford or QB for this one in 1934

[gardener]

I don't know




Births Sep 1864
TROMANS Eveline Stourbridge 6c 218
Births Mar 1880
Tromans Eveline Dudley 6c 3
Marriages Dec 1901
TROMANS Eveline Dudley 6c 126

1901
TROMANS Eveline TROMANS Samuel Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/9/491

That seems to take care of the 1880 birth and marriage. Angelina seems to have been quite a popular name down in Cornwall.

[rockyfowler]

31 Oct 1901
Samuel TROMANS 23 B Swivel Maker Old Hill Father John Tromans Swivel Maker
Eveline TROMANS 21 S Old Hill Father Joseph Tromans Joiner
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Alfred Cole / Ruth Tromans

[unicorn]

Thomas Tromans died in Cornwall in 1863 at Brodriggy (Cornwall OPC). Angelina was 19 when she married in 1883 which make her birth year 1864 and it is possible that she is Thomas's daughter. The marriage has her naming her father Thomas.
I think that when ThomasTromans died his widow was pregnant and she decided to return to where she was born,taking her children with her.

Do you have that Death certif for thomas?
so you can be sure it is him?

I haven't a death certificate but he is the only ThomasTromans living in that area and as far as I can see they were the only Tromans living in Cornwall during the 1861 census. There were 8 in the family including parents, and the children ranged form 1853 to 1861. There was only 1 child born in Cornwall and that was the 1861 child.
The eldest who was Joseph, the son of Thomas and Phoebe (Crampton) Tromans,continued to live in Cornwall after his step-mother returned to ,I presume,her family.
The Eveline Tromans born 1864 seem to be a good bet. but until a birth certificate is purchased there is no way of knowing. I can't find any baptism for this person only birth. If it is Eveline it is odd that she is Alexandra in a census and then Angelina when she married.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks RF for that will add that to Bcc

Unicorn do you have the death certif for John T Hickman?

can anyone find any will info for him or for Eveline Hickman

[unicorn]

Thanks RF for that will add that to Bcc

Unicorn do you have the death certif for John T Hickman?

can anyone find any will info for him or for Eveline Hickman

I can't find a will of Angelina or John and I haven't John's death certificate.

[Northern Lass]

Ok ordered the birth for that eveline and the death for evelina hickman

so skint now so will archive this and bring back with info

even if wrong one can use on Bcc might help someone else

going for a lie down in a dark room
hate parting with dosh!

[Northern Lass]

Well now isn't this interesting

Got the Birth Certif for Evelina Tromans and yes it is her!!

So Angelina is Evelina so well done Gardener...........you cracked it!!

I am waiting for that death certif too should get that today


So Unicorn info is on here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =182205885

[Northern Lass]

Just got the death certif too
and it is deffo her

will add to Bcc

g.son arthur is the informant

[gardener]

And three cheers for NL who has put in so much effort!