ARC....Thomas Hill (B:1774) M Phoebe Gauden (1776 - 1866)?

[BC Wench]

Now, Thomas Hill b Abt 1774 - no idea who he was: there are about 6 candidates in Old Swinford alone!

I concur with some of the other findings:
1. I think Thomas b1799 m Ann (unk) and had Elijah 1838 and Daniel 1844 b Cradley got them on census and more children, can't see a marriage
2. I think Ann b1818 was the mother of Phoebe b1840, them m William Guest in 1846 and had Zachariah 1848 and Caroline 1850 I agree and again I can't see a marriage for Ann & William Guest

[sp1]

That's brilliant sp1 thanks very much, that confirms what we have.

I didn't think the John Thomas Hill born about 1796 belonged to this Thomas & Phoebe Hill.

I wonder why Thomas & Phoebe had 2 girls by the name of Sarah? One baptised 11 Oct 1795 (who supposedly married Benjamin Hodgetts) and the other Sarah baptised 26 Jul 1812 both at Oldswinford.

I will put all the info on to BCC tomorrow.

You beat me to it sp1. I agree with you on both accounts.

To add to that: I suspect a lot of the 'Gordons' on BCC are actually 'Gaudens' - many of them don't seem to become 'Gordons' until the late 1800's or later: I have quite a few where some are Gordon and some are Gauden - as close as cousins, and possibly siblings (would have to check)

Edit to add: if they originate in Old Swinford (including Lye - where many of them seem to be - then I think they are/ were 'gaudens'

[Waltzer7]

Now a couple of problems:

I don't think Sarah b1794/5 married anyone: there is a later Sarah, which almost always implies the earlier one had died.
There was no John Thomas - there were TWO seperate children called John and Thomas, so I don't think there would be a third with both names! - add to that there is no baptism for him....

Why do you think Sarah b: 1794/5 hadn't married anyone?

She married Benjamin Hodgetts on 16 April 1815 at Clent, Worcestershire. IPN: M03517-3 GSFilm: 1042161.

I agree that this John Thomas isn't one of ours as he was baptised in Leicester, which is different from other children having been born locally.

[sp1]

Now a couple of problems:

I don't think Sarah b1794/5 married anyone: there is a later Sarah, which almost always implies the earlier one had died.
There was no John Thomas - there were TWO seperate children called John and Thomas, so I don't think there would be a third with both names! - add to that there is no baptism for him....

Why do you think Sarah b: 1794/5 hadn't married anyone?

She married Benjamin Hodgetts on 16 April 1815 at Clent, Worcestershire. IPN: M03517-3 GSFilm: 1042161.

I agree that this John Thomas isn't one of ours as he was baptised in Leicester, which is different from other children having been born locally.

Because there is another Sarah b 1812 - so the earlier one almost certainly died!
Whichever Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts (and there were several Sarahs born around this time to different parents) I don't think it was this one

[Waltzer7]

Now a couple of problems:

I don't think Sarah b1794/5 married anyone: there is a later Sarah, which almost always implies the earlier one had died.
There was no John Thomas - there were TWO seperate children called John and Thomas, so I don't think there would be a third with both names! - add to that there is no baptism for him....

Why do you think Sarah b: 1794/5 hadn't married anyone?

She married Benjamin Hodgetts on 16 April 1815 at Clent, Worcestershire. IPN: M03517-3 GSFilm: 1042161.

I agree that this John Thomas isn't one of ours as he was baptised in Leicester, which is different from other children having been born locally.

Because there is another Sarah b 1812 - so the earlier one almost certainly died!
Whichever Sarah married Benjamin Hodgetts (and there were several Sarahs born around this time to different parents) I don't think it was this one

This is really interesting as I originally had Sarah Read (1794 - 1868) married to Benjamin Hodgetts (1793 - 28/2/1869) on 31/12/1820 in Old Swinford from when I did the family tree on the old PC, which later packed up so now starting again on my laptop. It was only last week that I posted a query on the forum to which Sarah had married Benjamin Hodgetts, after coming across Sarah Hill in other Family Trees on http://www.ancestry.co.uk that made me queried as both Sarah Read & Sarah Hill had the same year of Baptism and death! This post has since been archived - found it on http://genealogyforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 31&t=18823

If you're certain that this Sarah Hill died... should we be looking at Sarah Read as the one who married Benjamin Hodgetts?

[sp1]

While I cant be ABSOLUTELY certain that the earlier Sarah Hill died (I don't have the Old Swinford burial register for that period) the evidence points to the fact that she did as there was a later sibling with the same name. There were a large number of Sarah Hills bapt at Old Swinford around this time (all within a few years) any of them, or none of them could have married Benjamin Hodgetts. Also, as the marriage took place at Clent there is a good possibility (for historical reasons) that the bride may have been from Rowley Regis!

[linell]

Waltzer these are Batch Nos transcribed by the Latter Day Saints from Parish Registers, most Churches in GB have a Batch No. You search by using the Batch No and a Surname:-

Births/Christenings Marriages
C000000-C200000 M000000-M200000
C300000-C400000 No corresponding M batches found in the range M300000-M400000
C500000-C600000 (North America) M500000-M600000 (North America)
C700000-C710000 (Ireland) M700000-M710000 (Ireland)
C710000-C800000 (North America) M710000-M800000 (North America)
C720000-C730000
C860000-C870000
P000000-P120000 E000000-E200000
(The E series seems to be mixed christenings and marriages - they are marked as "misc." in the index and listed in the marriages column on this site since they are mostly marriages)
J000000-J150000 (Males only)
K000000-K150000 (Females only - numbers correspond to the J series for males)
J500000-J600000 (Males only - North America)
K500000-K600000 (Females only - North America - numbers correspond to the J series for males)

[Waltzer7]

Waltzer these are Batch Nos transcribed by the Latter Day Saints from Parish Registers, most Churches in GB have a Batch No. You search by using the Batch No and a Surname:-

Births/Christenings Marriages
C000000-C200000 M000000-M200000
C300000-C400000 No corresponding M batches found in the range M300000-M400000
C500000-C600000 (North America) M500000-M600000 (North America)
C700000-C710000 (Ireland) M700000-M710000 (Ireland)
C710000-C800000 (North America) M710000-M800000 (North America)
C720000-C730000
C860000-C870000
P000000-P120000 E000000-E200000
(The E series seems to be mixed christenings and marriages - they are marked as "misc." in the index and listed in the marriages column on this site since they are mostly marriages)
J000000-J150000 (Males only)
K000000-K150000 (Females only - numbers correspond to the J series for males)
J500000-J600000 (Males only - North America)
K500000-K600000 (Females only - North America - numbers correspond to the J series for males)

Many thanks, Linell, for explaining the meaning of Batch number codes.

[Northern Lass]

if this has been answered I can move to archived.