ARC TBC.............DOWNES-ROSE, WALLACE, YOUNG, CARTWRIGHT-

[Northern Lass]

GEG where did you get that death date from for Jane Severns?

as we have no death for her and have not been able to find one

do you know somat we dont?
If so spill the beans!!

Also Ellen Downs do you have full birth certif info

or Gardener do you?

Let me get back to you on her, I must have received it from My Heritage via another tree, I will double check. I have that she died 6 Apr 1919.

That is incorrect GEG.....that is William Rose who died then
I have his death certif.

[GreekEnglishGal]

GEG do you have the marriage info for Helena May Downs Rose and for John Richard Young 1946 Sussex
the full info you could transcribe on here?

do you have birth certif for John Richard Young

just want to verify his father to add to Bcc

Births Jun 1925
Young John R Cartwright W.Bromwich 6b 1446

Births Dec 1884
Young Henry Archer W. Bromwich 6b 838

Marriage of Helena Downs-Rose and John Richard Young was 19 Dec 1946 via England and Wales Marriage Index 1916-2005.

John Richard Young was born 5 Mar 1925 West Bromwich, Staffordshire via England and Wales Birth Certificates 1916-2005.

Let me find source for Henry Archer...sorry frazzled today.

[GreekEnglishGal]

Henry Archer YOUNG and Ethel M CARTWRIGHT were married 17 Sep 1917 in West Bromwich, Stafford via the England and Wales Marriage index 1916-2005.

Again guys I am very new to this...

[GreekEnglishGal]

My mother is going to email me a picture of Henry Archer Young, Ethel Cartwright John R young, Philip and Margaret. She says she has a picture of Richard Young as well (Henry's father).

[GreekEnglishGal]

GEG where did you get that death date from for Jane Severns?

as we have no death for her and have not been able to find one

do you know somat we dont?
If so spill the beans!!

Also Ellen Downs do you have full birth certif info

or Gardener do you?

Let me get back to you on her, I must have received it from My Heritage via another tree, I will double check. I have that she died 6 Apr 1919.

That is incorrect GEG.....that is William Rose who died then
I have his death certif.

I'm sorry, I will change that on my tree.

[GreekEnglishGal]

just want to verify his father to add to Bcc



Births Dec 1884
Young Henry Archer W. Bromwich 6b 838

Yes this is him have that as well, can't find his wife Harriet Emma's surname....or their marriage certificate.

[GreekEnglishGal]

Thank you so much for adding my grandmother and grandfather to the tree, I just saw. It means so much to me )))

[Northern Lass]

Thank you so much for adding my grandmother and grandfather to the tree, I just saw. It means so much to me )))

No problem

Now you really could do with viewing the actual certif marriage certif, for this couple
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =357486903

that way you verify fathers for both.

But seems like fathers are as we have on Bcc so up to you if you get that certif or not.

I was just after if you had it not the index/ref for John Richard Youngs birth..........but his actual birth certificate
with full info on............just to verify father as Henry Archer Young...................just for fullness.

So going with Henry Archer Young as father of John Richard Young
I have as you have seen added marriage for a look up ..............now this is only if some kind soul goes to Smethwick archives
and has time to kindly look it up for us.....otherwise GEG you would need to order the marriage certif from GRO or local registry office

has noone in the family got that marriage certif so we can check fathers names
esp for Ethel......think it is that one FS found but need to be sure

[Northern Lass]

GEG
do you or your mother know when Ethel Young nee Cartwright died?
we may from index get a birth

not sure it is that one FS found
a tree on ancestry has her dying think it was 1978?

[GreekEnglishGal]

My mother says she died in 1978 in Halesowen, she is sure of this because she and my father stayed in her house in 1979.

[Northern Lass]

Can anyone see the death on death index on Ancestry
I cant see it

Ethel Young halesowen 1978

[rockyfowler]

Name: YOUNG, Ethel
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1975
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth:25 June 1888
Volume no: 33
Page no: 0906

[Northern Lass]

Name: YOUNG, Ethel
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1975
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth:25 June 1888
Volume no: 33
Page no: 0906

So that looks like her but it is 1975....would need death certif to be sure GEG.

[GreekEnglishGal]

Name: YOUNG, Ethel
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1975
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth:25 June 1888
Volume no: 33
Page no: 0906

I really wish my mother would join this site, I gave her the link. She responded that "I think rocky may be right. I was thinking your father and I lived in England in 79, but it was June 1975, right after we got married." Also, I was born in 1979 (in Myrtle Beach, SC, US) and they lived in Myrtle Beach a couple years before that.

So, how do I go about getting an official death certificate?

[Northern Lass]

Hi

You can order in 2 ways.

Via the GRO here
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

or via the Local Dudley registry office
using this ref

1975
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
YOUNG Ethel Stourbridge (SAD) Dudley Register Office SAD/01D/69

from this site
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/cgi/deathind.cgi

to order via local regis office you can go to this link
http://www.dudley.gov.uk/resident/livin ... tificates/

not sure when that marriage one will be looked up so if you want to find out her father for sure would be an idea
to order that one too.....you know the one I put down for look up.............cos might never get looked up.

You can order that marriage from GRO or from Sandwell registry office.

GRO you can order online
Dudley you can order online but check re overseas situation
not sure on Sandwell if you can order online you would need to contact them.

GrO might be best with you being overseas.

do let us know info when you get it