ARC TBC.....Benjamin Homer

[nessa]

I have a conundrum concerning Benjamin Homer born 1821 Pensnett, parents Sargent Homer and Sarah Hingley. Benjamin died May 1889 he was a blacksmith living at Broad Street Pensnett. In his will he talks about his wife Sarah not Elizabeth but I can not find a marriage to an Sarah, I have requested a marriage lookup for his marriage to Elizabeth in my tree to hopefully confirm his father as Sargent Homer.

I believe Benjamin and Elizabeth have 2 children,
William Henry 1845-1930
Emma/Emily 1847-
Then 1871 census there is a Martha Homer age 5 daughter, she appears nearly 20 years after their last child was born, was she really a granddaughter?

In his will he leaves to Martha his granddaughter Martha wife of Edwin Carless property, he also leaves property to his son William a house and shop that he is living in. As far as I know William does not have a daughter Martha who would be a granddaughter to Benjamin.

As for Emma/Emily I can't find anything after she is 14.

There are no other bequests in his will, I am hoping his wife will be Elizabeth but what about Martha could she be his granddaughter?

nessa

[Northern Lass]

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=59348575

[BC Wench]

There's this on FreeREG Nessa

County Staffordshire
Place Dudley Staffs
Church St Luke
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 10 Aug 1885
GroomForename Benjamin
GroomSurname HOMER
GroomAge 65
GroomParish
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation Blacksmith
GroomAbode Pensnett
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname MARSH
BrideAge 43
BrideParish
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Coopers Bank
GroomFatherForename Sargent
GroomFatherSurname HOMER
GroomFatherOccupation Blacksmith
BrideFatherForename Benjamin
BrideFatherSurname MEREDITH
BrideFatherOccupation Bricklayer
WitnessOneForename Francis Henry
WitnessOneSurname ROUND
WitnessTwoForename Adelaide
WitnessTwoSurname ROUND
Notes
FileNumber 33382

Benjamin's first marriage to Elizabeth Parkes is on Familysearch.

[nessa]

Thank you for your reply that is interesting as Benjamin's son William Henry married a Mary Jane Meredith , so Benjamin's first wife died and he re-married a Sarah, Francis Round who was a witness was also an executor on hs will.

Nessa

[peterd]

poss witnesses ?


Marriages Jun 1863
HALE Adelaide Kensington 1a 179
ROUND Francis Henry Kensington 1a 179

[Northern Lass]

Is the will a lengthy one or are you able to post on here?

just wondered what it says exactly re Martha?

started to add to Bcc


Martha Homer is on 1871 as dau of Benjamin and Elizabeth
do we know when Elizabeth died?

is Martha dau of a Joseph Round and Emily HOmer?
so grand dau of Ben and Elizabeth?

1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CARELESS Edwin ROUND Martha Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/010/182


poss?

1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOMER Emily ROUND Joseph Amblecote, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 015/002/156

poss prev marriage
1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MEREDITH Sarah MARSH Mathew Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/001/497

[Northern Lass]

Deaths Mar 1874
MARSH Matthew 30 Dudley 6c 37

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Deaths Sep 1885
Marsh Matthew 62 Dudley 6c 29

West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
MARSH Matthew Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/061/437


West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
MARSH Matthew Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/081/240

looks like the 1844 one ....on 1871 census living sedgley

[Northern Lass]

On 1881 looks like Martha is now a Martha Round aged 15

added her in as a possible but needs more confirmation
as there seems to be another Emily Homer in Amblecote on 1861 that could be one marrying Joseph round

[rockyfowler]

28 May 1843 St Thomas Dudley
Benjamin HOMER O B Blacksmith Commonside Parish of Kingswinford Father Sergent Homer Blacksmith
Elizabeth PARKES O S Gornal Wood Parish of Sedgley Father Thomas Parkes (Dec) Labourer
After Banns Benjamin Signed The X Of Elizabeth
Wit; Emmanuel Marsh X / Mary Marsh X

[Northern Lass]

Need that marriage for Martha Round and Edwin Carless to see her father on there...

and need marriage for Emily Homer will add for look up

Added martha as dau of Emily Homer...........but doesnt feel rite

any ideas anyone?

nessa do you have marriage for Wm henry Homer full info pls

[nessa]

Thanks for the information, the will isn't too long so I can type it in later I can't scan it in as I am having problems with my printer at the moment. Shall I post it by pm or here ?

I don't have the marriage for William Henry Homer to Mary jane Meredith he died in 1930 a pawn broker living at Fir Tree cottage West Hagley. His children were

Emily Homer born abt 1870
Albert born about 1872-1909
Benjamin Milton 1879-1961
Annie born about 1881
Samuel Wallace 1882-1951
Alice G about 1887
Gladys May about 1888/9

nessa

[Jimmy]

poss witnesses ?


Marriages Jun 1863
HALE Adelaide Kensington 1a 179
ROUND Francis Henry Kensington 1a 179

Ancestry,

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Francis Henry Round.
Name: Francis Henry Round. Bachelor. Smith.
Spouse Name: Adelaide Hale. Spinster.
Record Type: Marriage.
Event Date: 4 Apr 1863.
Parish: Paddington St James.
Borough: Westminster.
Father Name: Benjamin Round. Coke ?
Spouse Father: William Hale. Cooper.
Register Type: Parish Register.

[Jimmy]

1901. Commonside, Kingswinford.
Edwin Careless 40. Greengrocer.
Martha Careless 35.
Olive Careless 13.

All born Kingswinford.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1887.
ROUND Martha. CARELESS Edwin. Stourbridge Register Office. Dudley Register. Office 001/010/182.

[Jimmy]

1881. Kingswinford.
Benjamin Homer 61.
Elizabeth Homer 62.
Martha Round 15. Servant.
Albert E. Homer 9.
Ada E. Homer 7.

[Jimmy]

Freereg,

County Staffordshire
Place Kingswinford
Church St Marks (Pensnett)
RegisterNumber 227
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 10 Oct 1865
Forename Martha
Sex F
FatherForename Joseph
MotherForename Emily
FatherSurname ROUND
MotherSurname
Abode Commonside
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes
FileNumber 34010