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Martha Beard

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I am confused about Martha Beard.Married to George Crumpton using her married name Martha Phillips.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ard-Family

On Ancestry someone has linked her to a Thomas Phillips as Martha Unknown but we have Thomas Phillips on BCC married to Martha Blakemore.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ips-Family

Can anyone find a marriage for Martha Beard for me please?
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It is a bit out of district? Could be this if it checks out.

Marriages Jun 1871
Beard Martha Sheffield 9c 622
Curtis James Sheffield 9c 622
Hill Sarah Ann Sheffield 9c 622
PHILLIPS Thomas Sheffield 9c 622
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I'd seen that Gardner.How would i look it up?
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I don't think there is any cheap way :( Unless somebody can find a church record online.
There is a death which would fit just about, but it would mean Harriet Phillips would have to have been born in the right time frame

Deaths Mar 1873
Phillips Thomas 27 Sheffield 9c 286

Do you have anything else for her? Did she marry? That would confirm her father's name at least. Have you got her on the census apart from 1881?
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Harriet Phillips was born around 1873-1874 she's also on the 1891 census.
I have a marriage for Harriet Phillips and Nephew Belcher 1894 and i'm waiting for a lookup to determine who her father was.
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Rob wrote:Harriet Phillips was born around 1873-1874 she's also on the 1891 census.
I have a marriage for Harriet Phillips and Nephew Belcher 1894 and i'm waiting for a lookup to determine who her father was.


but those two are aged 52 in 1911, so born 1859 :?
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What two? Harriet Phillips is Martha and Unknown's daughter.
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Rob wrote:What two? Harriet Phillips is Martha and Unknown's daughter.


Harriet and Nephew Belcher are 52 in 1911 so I don't see how Harriet Belcher can be Harriet Phillips (who should be 38).
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Re: Martha Beard

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Oh sorry Gardner.Yes you're right it can't be her.
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Burial
7 Feb 1873 St Nicholas Bradfield Sheffield
Thomas PHILLIPS Age 20 years
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What about this one?

Marriage 1897
PHILLIPS Harriet MONK John West Bromwich, St Andrew Sandwell Register Office 26/2/264

1911 (Ancestry)
Name: Harrot Monk
Spouse: John Monk
Birth: abt 1874 - Oldbury , Worcestershire
Residence: date - city, Staffordshire, England
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Could somebody look at the 1911 and 1901 entries please? The ages are a bit off in 1901 perhaps:

Harriet Monk
Wife
1877
Oldbury, Worcestershire

but the kids fit with 1911.
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1911: 2 B/K 39 Bath Row, Rounds Green, Oldbury
John Monk 35 Head (Stone) Boatman
Harrot Monk 37 Wife Married 13 yrs - children 8/6/2
John Monk 13 Son
William Monk 12 Son
Jane Monk 10 Dau
George Monk 7 Son
Samuel Monk 3 Son
Thomas Monk 1 Son
(all born Oldbury)

1901: 1 Court, 14 Hse?, Halesowen St, Oldbury
(def MONK on image)
John Monte 24 Barge Boatman Canal
Harriet Monte 24 Oldbury
John Monte 3
William Monte 2
Jane Monte 3 Months
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Re: Martha Beard

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Thanks San.You're up early!!
I've requested a lookup for Harriet Phillips and John Monk and i couldn't find them on 1901 census.
I reckon this is the Harriet Phillips who belongs to Martha Beard.
I think Samuel Monk b.1908 lived in Eel Street when i was a kid and he later moved two doors away from my grandmother when they were all rehoused.
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Re: Martha Beard

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What more do you need on this Rob?

It is going to be awhile until look up is done
so we can archive until it is done

unless there is something else you need on this thread
if so what?
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