Thomas Coleys-Possible sibs Josiah John and Mary

[Jimmy]

1841. Spring Hill, Hasbury. Worcs.
Thomas Coley. 30. Button presser.
Mary Coley 25. Button Presser.
Eli Coley 2.

All b.i.c.

Couple of possible Marriages on Family Search:-
Thomas Coley.
bride's name: Mary Clift.
marriage date: 24 Dec 1837.
marriage place: St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
groom's father's name: Joseph Coley.
bride's father's name: Thomas Clift.
groom's marital status: Single.
bride's marital status: Single.
indexing project (batch) number: M01874-5.
system origin: England-EASy.
source film number: 350620.
reference number: Page 92 No 183.

[linell]

1851 Back of Spring Hill Halesowen
Thomas Coley HD M 40 Button Presser born Illey Worcs
Mary Ann Wife 36 Button Cliper Halesowen
Eli Son 12 Scholar Halesowen

This looks like him then must have progressed to a Button Manufacturer.

Will add the Marriages for a look up. Should be easy to find Thomas's family as not many Coley's in Illey.

Thanks Jimmy the Witnesses could be very helpful.

Linell.

[linell]

This is Joseph Coley from Illey, on BCC but no Thomas, as he was not at home on the 1841 Census:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

1841. Illey.
Joseph Coley 50. Farmer.
Sarah Coley 50.
Job Coley 20.
Elizabeth Coley 25.
Mary Coley 15.
Martha Coley 15.
Benjamin Coley 10.

1851. Upper Illey Halesowen
Joseph Coler 65. Farmer of 16 Acres. (Coley on image.)
Sarah Coler 70
Mary Coler 26. Dau
Martha Coler 24. Dau
Benjamin Coler 22. Farmer son
All born Halesowen.

Added by Jan 15-3-11
1861. Hagley Rd, Hasbury.
Joseph Coley 75. Nailer. Illy, Worcestershire.
Mary Coley 32.
Martha Coley 31.
Sarah A Coley 5.

[Northern Lass]

1851 Back of Spring Hill Halesowen
Thomas Coley HD M 40 Button Presser born Illey Worcs
Mary Ann Wife 36 Button Cliper Halesowen
Eli Son 12 Scholar Halesowen

This looks like him then must have progressed to a Button Manufacturer.

Will add the Marriages for a look up. Should be easy to find Thomas's family as not many Coley's in Illey.

Thanks Jimmy the Witnesses could be very helpful.

Linell.

If this is the uncle of Richard Coley Smith then father is a Joseph not a John
so that bapt for a Thomas and a Mary father John is not the correct family
but not sure that farmer Joseph is the correct one for this Thomas that family already have a mary aged 15 on 1841
I think Thomas button maker belongs to another Joseph
maybe one that has a Mary b 1800 too

[Northern Lass]

24 Dec 1837 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas COLEY O B Plasterer Hales Owen Father Joseph Coley Nailer
Mary CLIFT O S Hales Owen Father Thomas Clift Spade Maker
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; George Harris X / Ann? Harris X

groom's name: George Harris
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Anne Clift
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 27 Apr 1828
marriage place: Clent, Worcester, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M03517-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1042161
reference number:

[Northern Lass]

any later census for this Thomas pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =468895677

poss bapt
name: Thos. Coley
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Sep 1812
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Joseph Coley
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizth.
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378764
reference number:

[linell]

Hi Jan sorry am on my mobile so cannot paste any links. Just wanted to say that Thomas above is definetley the one who becomes Thomas Coley the Button Manufacturer' - how he links to Richard Coley Smith is frankly anyone's guess, all we can do after searching all the available records is make a best guess. I had Halesowen Aunties & Uncles, no relation just good family friends.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Hi Jan sorry am on my mobile so cannot paste any links. Just wanted to say that Thomas above is definetley the one who becomes Thomas Coley the Button Manufacturer' - how he links to Richard Coley Smith is frankly anyone's guess, all we can do after searching all the available records is make a best guess. I had Halesowen Aunties & Uncles, no relation just good family friends.

Linell.

Ok thanks Linell

I am for the moment going to connect easier to switch page views then
Will link him as uncle to Mary with note
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =775896173

[linell]

24 Dec 1837 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas COLEY O B Plasterer Hales Owen Father Joseph Coley Nailer
Mary CLIFT O S Hales Owen Father Thomas Clift Spade Maker
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; George Harris X / Ann? Harris X

groom's name: George Harris
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Anne Clift
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 27 Apr 1828
marriage place: Clent, Worcester, England
groom's father's name:

George and Ann lived next door to Thomas and Mary Coley nee Clift, must have been sisters.

1851 Spring Hill Halesowen
George Harris HD M 41 Carpenter Romsley
Ann Wife 40 Halesowen
Mary Ann Da U 19 Horn Button Maker Halesowen
Matilda Hannah Da Horn Button Maker Halesowen
George Son 8 Halesowen

Do you have that Clent Marriage please Jan

[linell]

From a book I have on Halesowen:-

Thomas Coley who had been an apprentice to Joseph Harris Button Manufacturer Spring Hill, set up his own Button Works in Highfield Lane. Known as 'Thomas Coley & Sons' the Works continued at Highfields until 1885.

Linell.

[linell]

1861 Love Lane Halesowen
Thomas Coley HD M 50 Button Manufacturer Employs 28 Hands Illey Worcs
Mary Coley Wife 46 Halesowen
Eli Coley Son 22 Do Do Halesowen

Next door is John Coley Wid 45 Nail Forger born Illey Worcs
John Coley Son 10 Halesowen
Harriet Coley Da 15 Halesowen

So this is John:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

[Northern Lass]

Ok got Thomas Coley and Mary in 1851 at district 3b Hasbury image 19
and then a few pages on at image 30 we have Thomas Coley

so living near to each other

Will add in Ann as Sister (with a note )and look up marriage at Clent.

so do we think John is brother to Thomas?

[linell]

Hi Jan, it is the 1851 Census, but I have a Transcript for Halesowen from BMSGH. Just having another search:-

120 Folio 160
1851 Back of Spring Hill Halesowen
Thomas Coley HD M 40 Button Presser born Illey Worcs
Mary Ann Wife 36 Button Cliper Halesowen
Eli Son 12 Scholar Halesowen

Sorry it is Josiah who is next door to George and Ann Harris
073 Folio 154
Josiah Coley HD M 42 Horn Button Presser Halesowen
Mary Wife 42 Horn Button Finisher Halesowen
David Son 17 Carpenter Halesowen
Mary Da 13 Halesowen
Sarah Da 10 "
Martha Da 8 "
Joseph Son 6 "
Samuel Son 6 "

074 Folio 155
1851 Spring Hill Halesowen
George Harris HD M 41 Carpenter Romsley
Ann Wife 40 Halesowen
Mary Ann Da U 19 Horn Button Maker Halesowen
Matilda Hannah Da Horn Button Maker Halesowen
George Son 8 Halesowen

Wonder if Josiah is another Brother?

[Northern Lass]

can anyone find an earlier marriage than this pls
1852
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COLEY John PARISH Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/012/64


1841 Spring Hill Hasbury
John Coley 25 Nailer
Ann Coley 25
Caleb Coley 7 Looks like 1
All Born in County

1839
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
COLEY Caleb Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/002/215

[linell]

Josiah is on BCC, was born Illey:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

You have a note to look up the Marriage at Clent.

Linell.