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ARC TBC..................Whittons in Oz

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I have been contacted by a Whitton in Australia and am trying to confirm whether her Whittons are related to my Wittons.
The Wittons I have are all Black Country, but this lady's ancestor was born in Sheffield. I think his father may have been from Gospelend, Staffs. though? :think:

Frederick Whitton apparently emigrated to Australia about 1923
His father was William Whitton born abt 1879 Sheffield
William had married a Gertrude Horten in 1900 and on his marriage certificate I have been told that his father is listed as John, puddler deceased.

There is this census for 1881 ....
Carlise St East 3 No 5 CT, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire
John Witton, 43,head,married, puddler steel works, born Gospelend, Staffs
Ann, 37, wife, born Bilston
Elizabeth,13,daughter, born Goldegreen,Staffs
Ellen,8,daughter, born Leabrook,Staffs
Agnes,4,daughter, born Sheffield
William,1,son,born Sheffield
Job,1month, son, born Sheffield

So if that is the right William, then he could be connected to the Black Country Wittons

His father John may well be the John Witton on BCC here....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family

I suppose we could do with tracking down a marriage for John and wife Ann?....
and also earlier censuses?

Usual problems with whether this is Whitton or Witton :roll:

Any thoughts?
Thankyou
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Sedgley in the 1871 census.

Staffordshire Census Transcript (1871)

Address: Leabrook Square Parish: Tipton Registration District: Dudley

Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Willon John 33 Head Pudler Sedgley, Staffordshire
Willon Ann 26 Wife Bilston, Staffordshire
Willon Elizabeth 3 Daughter West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Willon Ann 1 Daughter West Bromwich, Staffordshire
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Most probable marriage....

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: WITTON, John
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1866
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 129

MarriageFinder: John Witton married one of the following people:

HARPER, Ann

ROBERTS, Ann

COOKSEY, Thomas

A possible, with the children being born Smethwick....

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: WYTON, John
Registration district: Aston
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1865
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 305

MarriageFinder: John Wyton married one of the following people:

MOSLEY, Martha

WILLIAMS, Ann

THOMAS, Alfred
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MarkCDodd wrote:Most probable marriage....

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: WITTON, John
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1866
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 129

MarriageFinder: John Witton married one of the following people:

HARPER, Ann

ROBERTS, Ann

COOKSEY, Thomas.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1866.
WITTON John. ROBERTS Ann. Tipton, St Mark. Sandwell Register Office. 38/1/236.
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MarkCDodd wrote:A possible, with the children being born Smethwick....

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: WYTON, John
Registration district: Aston
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1865
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 305

MarriageFinder: John Wyton married one of the following people:

MOSLEY, Martha

WILLIAMS, Ann

THOMAS, Alfred


John Wyton.
Groom's Birth Date: 1844.
Groom's Age: 21.
Bride's Name: Martha Mosley.
Bride's Birth Date: 1844.
Bride's Age: 21.
Marriage Date: 27 Mar 1865.
Marriage Place: St. Andrew, Bordesley, Warwick.
Groom's Father's Name: John Wyton.
Bride's Father's Name: John Mosley.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00729-4.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1545606.
Reference Number: it 28, p 14, no 28.
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we need to look this marriage up expat
I will add for a look up

1866.
WITTON John. ROBERTS Ann. Tipton, St Mark. Sandwell Register Office. 38/1/236.

Expat can you get the marriage info for Wm the full info wits etc from your contact?
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Where is John in 1861 not with family

1851 Gospel End Rd, Sedgley, Staffordshire,
Edward WITTON 53 nailmaker,
Ann " 47 nailmaker,
Enock " 23 nailmaker,
Job " 15 forge labourer
John " 13 forge labourer,
Thomas " 11,
Isaiah " 8,
Mary " 3
all born Sedgley

1861 144 Castle St, Sedgley, Staffordshire,
Edward WHITTON 63 nailer,
Ann " 47
Enock " son 30 widower nailer,
Mary " dau 12
all born Sedgley
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there was this one ....

1856 WHITTON John NEW Rebecca Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/009/198

But This one is on the 1871 with wife Rebecca in 1871
so not that one
John Witton aged 35 b Sedgley Chainmaker
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there is this too
1864
WHITTON * John WOOD Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/21

but this John is a Butcher aged 44 and father is a John Whitton ground Baliff so not the one we want
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Marriages Dec 1900
Horton Gertrude Ecclesall B. 9c 672
Lidgett Frances Ecclesall B. 9c 672
Paget George Ecclesall B. 9c 672
Whitton William Ecclesall B. 9c 672
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MarkCDodd wrote:Sedgley in the 1871 census.

Staffordshire Census Transcript (1871)

Address: Leabrook Square Parish: Tipton Registration District: Dudley

Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Willon John 33 Head Pudler Sedgley, Staffordshire
Willon Ann 26 Wife Bilston, Staffordshire
Willon Elizabeth 3 Daughter West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Willon Ann 1 Daughter West Bromwich, Staffordshire


It has to be this one as next door is brother Isaiah
I will add this

but we still need marriage looked up
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where is John in 1861?
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Some more info. from Oz :grin:

The Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage confirmed that Will was John & Annie's son, as the address on the certificate, 129 Gower St is the same in the 1901, 1891, census even tho Will is not at that address.
He & Gertie were already married in 1901

Will is at the Blue Coat Boys Charity School Sheffield in 1891. The rest of the family was living at Gower St, which she thinks might have been a boarding house, that the girl's helped Annie with after John died.
John was blind in one eye in the 1881 census. She thinks he died around 1884 after Job was born (1881). She found a John Witten in the death index abt that date.
John & Annie moved from Staffordshire before Will was born.

There were alot of William Whitton's living in Sheffield at the time & a few Gertude Hortens.... so she hopes she has linked up the right ones, as no one in Oz seems to know anything of William's life before Gertrude.

Marriage info...
Gertrude's father & sister (Thomas & Annie) were witnesses. date married was 24/12/1900 at St Barnabas, Sheffield, by Alfred Wood. William was a Boiler Fireman & John was a Puddler (deceased)

William Whitton - in 1891 census was spelt Witten, other census' it is Witton on one census it is Wilton???!!!(transcribing error), on the marriage certificate it is Whitton, which is the spelling her family use.
There are no signatures, everything is written in the same hand writing.

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maybe post the census for Gower st and add it if you a min Expat
add whatever else you think looks ok if you wish :wink:
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