ARC TBC...........Taylors of Old Hill and Tabernacle Church.

[Northern Lass]

WOW!!! You guys are the business!! I have a day at work and come back home to find all of this... I'll post more on here for sure and try and help anybody else wherever I can. Thankyou thankyou

Good eh!

Did you contact me via the Bcc site too? the names seem familiar

[Northern Lass]

Might be an idea to check those death certifs BCB

for Dorothy ....check that is her

[peterd]

WOW!!! You guys are the business!! I have a day at work and come back home to find all of this... I'll post more on here for sure and try and help anybody else wherever I can. Thankyou thankyou

try this looks like another family member doing research and on tribal pages here there tree and you should be able to contact them through it


http://barb1954lygo.tribalpages.com/fam ... ker-Family



home page to contact


http://barb1954lygo.tribalpages.com/tri ... ew=9&ver=2

[peterd]

starting to add anyone find the missing census please

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=42856658

[Northern Lass]

WOW!!! You guys are the business!! I have a day at work and come back home to find all of this... I'll post more on here for sure and try and help anybody else wherever I can. Thankyou thankyou

Any chance BCB of David Wesleys marriage info do you have it pls?

[blackcountrybiker]

Any chance BCB of David Wesleys marriage info do you have it pls?

Yeah - My gran was Minnie Hill, I've got all of their original certificates, wedding photos, bibles, holiday snaps, and even some of Grandad Wes's stuff from WW1 ... I'll post details later.

[blackcountrybiker]

Did you contact me via the Bcc site too? the names seem familiar

Yeah Northern Lass, that was me. lots of common relatives there... I followed your link to here and I've had more response in 24 hrs than I had anywhere else all year.

[blackcountrybiker]

I also have relatives who were at the Royal Orphanage in Wolverhampton (it still exists). It's worth getting in touch with them, as they may still have the application details. In my case they sent me documents from the 1880's that gave details that I wouldn't have been able to get elsewhere. It took about six months before I recieved a reply, and to be honest, I'd given up on them. But it was worth waiting for!!

Never thought about that - a bit obvious really, LOL... thanks for the tip. I have a bible belonging to my Grandad Wes presented to him by the Orphanage when he left, unfortuantely it's not dated though.

[blackcountrybiker]

Okay - this is what I know of my family. During the nailmakers strike in the 1860s, Walkers of Netherton brought in some workers from Belper and Pentrich in Derbyshire as strike breakers. Contrary to popular opinion, they did not all settle in Derby End or Belper Row, but most were put up in new houses in Griffin Street and Meeting Street in Netherton, hence there are Taylors in quite a few houses there in the 1860s and 1870s.

Henry Richard Taylor was my great great grandfather and we were never sure whether he married Edena Smith or Edna Hollis. after today it looks most likely that it was Edna Hollis (or Hollies( especially as another Hollies sister married one of his brothers.

Thanks for finding the wedding details of John William and Esther Willetts, that really has opened a few memories of conversations in the distant past for my old Mam. John and Esther were married in 1888 and had three children, Maggie , David westley and John William. They all lived in Chapel Street in Netherton and my Grandad often showed me the house when he took me for walks around Netherton in the late 60s. Early 1901 disater struck The family were struck down with Typhoid fever, Maggie died at home on jan 22nd, John died at home on feb 1st and Esther died in the Infectious disease hospital on Feb 10th leaving John (always known as Jack) and David (always known as Wes or Wesley) (note different spelling to his birth certificate which was David Westley) as orphans. You have detailed the census which shows Wes n Jack living with their Aunt and cousins on here earlier.

Wes went to work at Stewarts and Lloyds when he was 16 and worked there until he retired 50 years later. during that time he served as a horse driver in the ASC in WW1, getting shelled in Gallipoli and always carrying the shrapnel imbedded in his leg as a reminder. Wes married Minnie Hill on Sept 20th 1924 at st Andrews Church Netherton and I have their wedding photo too. Wes was living on Long Lane Blackheath at the time. He lived a long life and finally passed away on 21 september 1991 aged 99, I was with him when he died I never met Minnie, she died the year before I was born on 20 April 1963.

A few coincidences have occured along the way too. I was born in Walker Street Netherton, named after Walkers, the same firm that brought my family to Netherton in the first place. I also lived on Shell Corner for a while in the 90s, a house my grandfather spent time in during the 1920s but didn't realise at the time. I have also just made contact with another Taylor now living in Holland, the grandson of Harry Taylor who was with John William when he died in 1901 and signed the death certificate. A 2nd cousin that my mam never knew she had. My mam is Margaret Taylor, born Feb 10th 1928 and the only child of Wes and Minnie, she was named after poor Maggie who died so young in 1901. I have Maggies bible and will treasure it forever.

[blackcountrybiker]

Hi

do you have this marriage info at all pls

1888
TAYLOR * John W WILLETTS Esther Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/149
TAYLOR * John W WILLITTS Esther Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/149

I think this maybe Esther
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =109809297

Thanks for the link - you have just confirmed some sketchy details I had on this marriage, and yes the other link is definitely my great grandma Esther.

[FarSide]

starting to add anyone find the missing census please

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=42856658

This one Pete
1841
Scotchis?, Belper, Duffield, Derbyshire
William Taylor 25 - Nailer
Mary Taylor 30
John Taylor 5
Lawrance Taylor 1
all b in c

[blackcountrybiker]

I think you've found Dorothy for me anyhoos I phoned my Mam tonight and all the stories about her being married twice and her first husband being killed during WW2 started ringing bells for her. Another coincidence there though, Her first husband was killed in an accident whilst delivering planes from RAF Kirkbride in the old County of Cumberland... only a few miles away from where I live now. I was up there on the weekend taking photographs of the remaining buildings from the WW2 airfield.

[Maths girl]

The plays created great interest and soon incorporated the Youth Fellowship which was very strong
in the Tabernacle Church at this time. It was 1946 that Edith decided to produce something more
ambitious. The choir joined too, and so an adult society was formed as membership was restricted to
members over the age of 16. Zurika was chosen as the first venture and the leading parts were played
by Margaret Cooper and Eric Beasley. The musical accompaniment was a solo piano.
The production met with great success and so it was decided to produce another show the following
year. This show was San Marino which had been performed earlier as a Sunday school play with
Ethel Hobbs in the lead. Rehearsals were started in 1947 with Edith (Guest) Edgar as the leading lady
and Roy Bennett as the leading man, Olwen Homer as the Court Jester and other parts were played by
Wendy Mason, Christine Shakespeare, Dorothy Newman, Vernon Mason and William Allbut.
The part of the doctor was played by Richard Edmonds.

but this is 1947 ?


from here dorothy mentioned a few time its now called

Tabernacle Primitive Methodist Church in High Street, Old Hill, now Highgate Street, Cradley Heath


http://www.taboperatic.com/metamorphosis_of_the_tab.htm

Just caught up with this thread -- Christine Shakespeare mentioned in the exerpt was my mum -- I recognise many of the names in the longer version from her descriptions of her time in the operatic society and we have various pictures too -- somewhere.

My cousin may know more about Dorothy and Alfred -- I will get back to you if she can add anything

[blackcountrybiker]

Christine Shakespeare mentioned in the exerpt was my mum -- I recognise many of the names in the longer version from her descriptions of her time in the operatic society and we have various pictures too -- somewhere. My cousin may know more about Dorothy and Alfred -- I will get back to you if she can add anything

That would be great - thanks.

[Northern Lass]

Hi BCB I have added Minnie Hill to BCC

can you post the marriage details you have pls for David and Minnie and we can add that info to the tree
do you know who her parents were?
we may have them on the tree already