1861 census pls needed for James Cutler x 2

[grangers14]

On BCC

1881 High St Grocers Shop Kingswinford
James Cutler age 41 Born Brockmoor Forge staffordshire (Journeyman Butcher)
Matilia Cutler age 45 wife Born Wordsley--this should say Phebe /Janetta not Matilda!
Eli Billingham age 70 Lodger (Invalid )
Frederick Cutler age 17 Lodger son (Son, Bucket MakerRowley Regis)
Joseph Cutler age 16 Lodger son (son, Unemployed, Rowley Regis)
Edith Cutler age 8 Lodger Daughter (daur, Rowley Regis)

[Northern Lass]

On BCC

1881 High St Grocers Shop Kingswinford
James Cutler age 41 Born Brockmoor Forge staffordshire (Journeyman Butcher)
Matilia Cutler age 45 wife Born Wordsley--this should say Phebe /Janetta not Matilda!
Eli Billingham age 70 Lodger (Invalid )
Frederick Cutler age 17 Lodger son (Son, Bucket MakerRowley Regis)
Joseph Cutler age 16 Lodger son (son, Unemployed, Rowley Regis)
Edith Cutler age 8 Lodger Daughter (daur, Rowley Regis)

what do you mean?

not with you?

[Northern Lass]

Ok re marriages

1865 st thomas dudley James Cutler to Eliza masters father is a Thomas Cutler
here on bcc...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =546770765

1862 halesowen James Cutler to Mary ann partridge father sia a John
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =675126781

1860 St thomas dudley James cutler to a Harriet cutler father is a James but is a Blacksmith not carpenter

so I think it is the Harriet billingham

[Northern Lass]

Transcibed and looks like Cutter.
1861. Rounds Green, Oldbury
George Wakendine, head, 23, Coal Miner, Wolverhampton
Elizabeth, wife, 20, Oldbury
/James Cutter, Head (lodger crossed out) 24,, Coal Miner, ?
Harriet, wife, 23, Oldbury

this one is the Cutler Cutler one
wit is Elizabeth Walkerdine

so I think that looks ok then for Harriet Billingham marrying James Cutler in 1861
she dies in 1868
he remarries Phoebe Janetta Billingham

not sure what r'ship betw Billinghams is dont care!

going to archive this one tomoz

thanks all