1861 census pls needed for James Cutler x 2

[Northern Lass]

We have 2 on Bcc if I can connect I want to

are they the same

This James here son of James Cutler and Mary Round ....b 1839
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =383025861

and then this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =500820940

on marriage father for James is James a Carpenter

[linell]

Hi NL, not sure about James, yes his father James was a Carpenter, but on the 1851 Census James Jnr is a Time Keeper, think that was something in the Iron Industry, not sure if it is him or not, need to search the Census

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Hi NL, not sure about James, yes his father James was a Carpenter, but on the 1851 Census James Jnr is a Time Keeper, think that was something in the Iron Industry, not sure if it is him or not, need to search the Census

Linell.

can someone post the full info pls for these censsu


1851 Census Windmill End Netherton Dudley
James Cutler HD M 50 Carpenter born Oldbury Worcs
Mary Wife 44 RR
Joseph Son Carpenter RR
John Son 16 Roller Dudley
Mary A DA 20 Dressmaker
Dudley
Elizabeth DA 18 Tailoress Dudley
James Son 12 Dudley
Edward Son 10 Dudley
Phelicia DA 3 Dudley.

1861 Census Darby Hand Netherton
James Cutler HD 62
Mary Wife 52
Joseph Son 32 Wheelwright
Sarah DA Unmarried 23
Edward Son 21 Painter
Felicia DA 13
Joseph Harry Cutler Son 6
James Hadley Cutler Son 2.

[rockyfowler]

1841
CUTTLER, James M Carpenter 40 1801
CUTTLER, Mary F 30 1811
CUTTLER, Jos M 14 1827
CUTTLER, Wm M 12 1829
CUTTLER, Mary F 10 1831
CUTTLER, Elizabeth F 8 1833 Worcestershire
CUTTLER, John M 6 1835 Worcestershire
CUTTLER, Sariah F 4 1837 Worcestershire
CUTTLER, Jas M 2 1839 Worcestershire
CUTTLER, Edward M 0 (2 months) 1841 Worcestershire

Darby Hand, Dudley
Worcestershire

[linell]

Trying to find James Cutler born about 1839 first marriage, think this is him with wife Louisa:-

1861 Spinners End Cradley Heath

JAMES CUTLER Head Married 25 yrs
LOUISA CUTLER Wife Married 23 yrs
HANNAH CUTLER Daughter 1 yr

There is a Death Dudley Reg District 1871 for Louisa Cutler aged 35, which could be this one

Linell.

[linell]

My 1851 Census on Disc has James here as a Time Keeper - he was only 12 so maybe just some odd job he was doing

1851 Census Windmill End Netherton Dudley
James Cutler HD M 50 Carpenter born Oldbury Worcs
Mary Wife 44 RR
Joseph Son Carpenter RR
John Son 16 Roller Dudley
Mary A DA 20 Dressmaker
Dudley
Elizabeth DA 18 Tailoress Dudley
James Son 12 Dudley
Edward Son 10 Dudley
Phelicia DA 3 Dudley.

[linell]

1861 Census Darby Hand Netherton
James Cutler HD 62
Mary Wife 52
Joseph Son 32 Wheelwright
Sarah DA Unmarried 23
Edward Son 21 Painter
Felicia DA 13
Joseph Harry Cutler Son 6
James Hadley Cutler Son 2.

Joseph and James above, should be Grandsons, they were Sarah Cutler's children.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

I do think it is same James may connect with a note

any of these below [url][/url] could be 1st marriage
1857
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTLER James BILLINGHAM Betsey West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/7/470


or maybe the smethwick one

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTLER * James CUTLER Harriet Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/019/366

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTLER James BILLINGHAM Harriett Smethwick, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 1/1/357

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTLER James PARTRIDGE Mary A Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/003/53

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTTLER James MASTERS Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/231

[Northern Lass]

I think it is the Harriet billingham one

poss death

Deaths Jun 1868
Cutler Harriet 28 Birmingham 6d 82

Marriages Sep 1861
Attwood Nathaniel Kings N 6c 602
Billingham Harriette Kings N 6c 602
Billingham Harriott Kings N 6c 602
Cutler James Kings N 6c 602
Howell Jane King's N. 6c 602

and wondering if this is Harriet

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =310154426

[Northern Lass]

where is James in 1861 ?

1871 32 Union Street, Rowley
James Cuttler 32 - Widow - General labourer - b Dudley
Frederick Cuttler 7
Joseph Cuttler 6
others b Rowley

[Northern Lass]

I am connecting up with a note and looking up marriages

wondering if he marries Betsy Billingham then Harriet Billingham then Phebe Janetta

still need James b 1839 in 1861 pls anyone

[Northern Lass]

It isnt the James Cutler and Betsy one as they are on 1861 and 1871

[Northern Lass]

where is James in 1861 ?

1871 32 Union Street, Rowley
James Cuttler 32 - Widow - General labourer - b Dudley
Frederick Cuttler 7
Joseph Cuttler 6
others b Rowley

I have connected up with a note

still need him on 1861 pls

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =494799305

[grangers14]

Transcibed and looks like Cutter.
1861. Rounds Green, Oldbury
George Wakendine, head, 23, Coal Miner, Wolverhampton
Elizabeth, wife, 20, Oldbury
/James Cutter, Head (lodger crossed out) 24,, Coal Miner, ?
Harriet, wife, 23, Oldbury

[Northern Lass]

Transcibed and looks like Cutter.
1861. Rounds Green, Oldbury
George Wakendine, head, 23, Coal Miner, Wolverhampton
Elizabeth, wife, 20, Oldbury
/James Cutter, Head (lodger crossed out) 24,, Coal Miner, ?
Harriet, wife, 23, Oldbury

That looks like this one


1860
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTLER * James CUTLER Harriet Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/019/366


so dont think that is the one I want waiting on some look ups