I've re-sent the photo to Nl. The headstone quite clearly reads 1864, and gives his age as 37. His name is also first on the headstone, so presumably the first buried.
linell wrote:I have the St Luke MI's NL, but they are on fiche, will try and get to Stafford Archives next week and use their reader.
Linell.
Oh heck and I have a fiche reader and no MI's
that would be great thanks Linell
that photo clearly says 29 sept 1864 and it is deffo in St Lukes Cradley Heath I have a photo sent by Silver surfer one of the members on Bcc but can't read it if we could or if anyone can sort it we can upload it
or I will try and get an image from Cradley Heath myself soon.
wonder why not in the actual register and why we cant find a death
A check of the PR for St Lukes, Cradley Heath has failed to find a burial for Samuel Tibbetts, despite a headstone in the churchyard giving his details. Several of us have seen a picture of the headstone.
Looking again at the picture of the headstone:
The first three names look as if they were engraved at the same time. That is Samuel (d. 29 Sep 1864), John (d. 17 May 1877) and Fanny (d. 20 Apr 1899), followed by a prayer, before Emma's details were added, and finally Joseph Dimmock. So, perhaps the stone was first used for the burial of Fanny in 1899 and Emma took the opportunity to add the details for Samuel and John. Also, Emma may have mis-remembered the actual date of Samuel's death if the stone was first erected in 1899.
Perhaps the next step is to see if there is a record of either the burial of John or Fanny in the church records. If there is no burial for John at Cradley Heath, it is likely that the headstone was erected well after the deaths of Samuel and John. I would, however, expect to find a record of the burial of Fanny in the PR.
In the meantime, the search goes on for any record of Samuel's death.
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Pos? From Parish Records St Luke Reddal Hill Samuel TIBBETTS Cradley Heath Buried 4 Oct 1868 Age 35yrs
Name: TIBBETTS Samuel Registration District: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of Registration: 1868 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 35 Volume No: 6D Page No: 23
“As I learned from growing up, you don’t mess with your grandmother.” — Prince William
[quote="rockyfowler"]Pos? From Parish Records St Luke Reddal Hill Samuel TIBBETTS Cradley Heath Buried 4 Oct 1868 Age 35yrs
If this isn't the husband of Emma Clee, who is it? The time between the death in Birmingham (possibly on 29 September) and the burial in Cradley Heath on 4 October looks about right. So, maybe, when Emma had the headstone erected in 1899, she had the day right, but the year and age wrong?
This date for the death also gives legitimacy to more of Emma's children.
We have a baptism for this Samuel at Cradley on 22 Jan 1832, which was always at odds with the age and dates given on the headstone. The 'new' year is a better fit.
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