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Just wondered if we could find him on the Census and his family, such a sad story.
Linell.
WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY---Linell adding to BCC
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
Thanks RF for posting the Marriage:-
DETHERIDGE William CLAY Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/017/441 1858
Does anyone connect to Wm or Elizabeth
We have a couple of possibles on BCC.
Linell.
DETHERIDGE William CLAY Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/017/441 1858
Does anyone connect to Wm or Elizabeth
We have a couple of possibles on BCC.Linell.
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
Could be even more of a sad story ...
So"¦ the Joseph Detheridge, brother to William, could be this one:
1861 at Constitution Hill. Dudley
Joseph Detheridge Head Mar 23 Whitesmith b. Dudley
Sushannah Detheridge Wife Mar 24 b. Dudley
Eliza Detheridge Daur 2 b. Dudley
Hannah Detheridge Daur 1 b. Dudley
Sarah Nicklin Sister-in-law 8 pupil b. Dudley
In which case, poss?:
1851 at Churchfield Row, Dudley
Elizabeth Detheridge Head Orphan 19 Tailoress b. Worcs., Dudley
William Detheridge Bro Orphan 19 b. Worcs., Dudley
Joseph Detheridge Bro Orphan 13 b. Worcs., Dudley
Ann Detheridge Sister Orphan 12 b. Worcs., Dudley
1841 at Churchfield Row, Dudley
Edward Ditheridge 30 Glassblower b. in county
Hannah Ditheridge 30 not b. in county
Benjamin Ditheridge 15 b. in county
Mary Ditheridge 10 b. in county
Elizabeth Ditheridge 9 b. in county
William Ditheridge 7 b. in county
Joseph Ditheridge 4 b. in county
Ann Ditheridge 2 b. in county
So"¦ the Joseph Detheridge, brother to William, could be this one:
1861 at Constitution Hill. Dudley
Joseph Detheridge Head Mar 23 Whitesmith b. Dudley
Sushannah Detheridge Wife Mar 24 b. Dudley
Eliza Detheridge Daur 2 b. Dudley
Hannah Detheridge Daur 1 b. Dudley
Sarah Nicklin Sister-in-law 8 pupil b. Dudley
In which case, poss?:
1851 at Churchfield Row, Dudley
Elizabeth Detheridge Head Orphan 19 Tailoress b. Worcs., Dudley
William Detheridge Bro Orphan 19 b. Worcs., Dudley
Joseph Detheridge Bro Orphan 13 b. Worcs., Dudley
Ann Detheridge Sister Orphan 12 b. Worcs., Dudley
1841 at Churchfield Row, Dudley
Edward Ditheridge 30 Glassblower b. in county
Hannah Ditheridge 30 not b. in county
Benjamin Ditheridge 15 b. in county
Mary Ditheridge 10 b. in county
Elizabeth Ditheridge 9 b. in county
William Ditheridge 7 b. in county
Joseph Ditheridge 4 b. in county
Ann Ditheridge 2 b. in county
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
It seems that Williiam Detheridge's wife, Elizabeth Clay, remarried Frederic E. Jones in 1864 and they emigrated to America in 1869:
"Elizabeth Clay Jones - obituary - Wyoming Press - May 14 1914 - Thursday
Another Pioneer Gone
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Mrs, F. E. Jones. Sr., Answers Final Call.
It is with much regret that we chronicle the death of Mres. Frederick E. Jones sr., who passed away at ther home on Center street Monday, May 11, 1914, after an illness of two weeks, she having been seized by a paralysis at that time.
Elizabeth Jones was born April 14, 1839, at Dudley, England, and was 73 years and 27 days old when the summons came. She was married in 1838 to W. D. Detheridge, who passed on; and on Aug. 27, 1864, at Worcester, England, she became the wife of Frederick E. Jones, sr., by whom she is now survived. To this union were born seven children, five of whom are now living, as follows: Mrs. Annie Whittaker, Knight; Mrs. Jeanette Marx, Cody, Wyo.; Fred E. Jones, jr., Evanston; Ernest Jones, Mandla, P. I.; George Jones, Evanston. The oldest son, by the first marriage is Wm. Detheridge, who now resides at San Francisco. Mrs. Clara Blanchard-Detheridge, Evanston.
In addition to these, there are nineteen grand children and six great grand children.
The deceased came to America in 1869 locating at Scranton, Pa., and removed to Evanston in 1876, being among our oldest and most repected pioneers. She was known and admired as one of our most dependable and jovial citizens, whose kindness and generosity had been shared by many a friend and weary traveler. A good woman has been taken and a place made vacant in the home which never can be filled"¦"¦"
"Elizabeth Clay Jones - obituary - Wyoming Press - May 14 1914 - Thursday
Another Pioneer Gone
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Mrs, F. E. Jones. Sr., Answers Final Call.
It is with much regret that we chronicle the death of Mres. Frederick E. Jones sr., who passed away at ther home on Center street Monday, May 11, 1914, after an illness of two weeks, she having been seized by a paralysis at that time.
Elizabeth Jones was born April 14, 1839, at Dudley, England, and was 73 years and 27 days old when the summons came. She was married in 1838 to W. D. Detheridge, who passed on; and on Aug. 27, 1864, at Worcester, England, she became the wife of Frederick E. Jones, sr., by whom she is now survived. To this union were born seven children, five of whom are now living, as follows: Mrs. Annie Whittaker, Knight; Mrs. Jeanette Marx, Cody, Wyo.; Fred E. Jones, jr., Evanston; Ernest Jones, Mandla, P. I.; George Jones, Evanston. The oldest son, by the first marriage is Wm. Detheridge, who now resides at San Francisco. Mrs. Clara Blanchard-Detheridge, Evanston.
In addition to these, there are nineteen grand children and six great grand children.
The deceased came to America in 1869 locating at Scranton, Pa., and removed to Evanston in 1876, being among our oldest and most repected pioneers. She was known and admired as one of our most dependable and jovial citizens, whose kindness and generosity had been shared by many a friend and weary traveler. A good woman has been taken and a place made vacant in the home which never can be filled"¦"¦"
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
Oh thanks for finding that Di, what a life Elizabeth had, no wonder she emigrated, many thanks, that's most helpful, cheers from Linell.
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
1870. Scranton Ward 6, Luzerne, Pennsylvania.
Frederick Jones 28. Butcher.
Elizabeth Jones 30.
Annie Jones 4.
Jennie Jones 2.
Edwin Clay 20.
John Thornton 24.
All born England.
1880. Bear River Valley, Uinta, Wyoming.
Frederick JONES Self M Male W 38 ENG Farmer ENG ENG
Elizabeth JONES Wife M Female W 40 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG
Annie E. JONES Dau S Female W 14 ENG ENG ENG
Janet JONES Dau S Female W 12 ENG ENG ENG
Frederick JONES Son S Male W 10 PA ENG ENG
Minnie JONES Dau S Female W 6 PA ENG ENG
Earnest JONES Son S Male W 4 PA ENG ENG
George JONES Son S Male W 2 WY ENG ENG
Harry JONES Son S Male W 6M WY ENG ENG
John H. LUTTS Other Male W 22 PA Laborer PA ENG
1900. Evanston, Uinta, Wyoming.
Frederick E Jones 56. Butcher. England.
Elizabeth Jones 61. England.
George L Jones 21. Son. Wyoming.
Francis M Jones 6. Dau. Utah.
1910. Evanston, Uinta, Wyoming.
Freddrick Jones 68. Butcher, meat market.
Elizabeth Jones 71.
George Jones 52. [32]
Francis Jones 16.
Frederick Jones 28. Butcher.
Elizabeth Jones 30.
Annie Jones 4.
Jennie Jones 2.
Edwin Clay 20.
John Thornton 24.
All born England.
1880. Bear River Valley, Uinta, Wyoming.
Frederick JONES Self M Male W 38 ENG Farmer ENG ENG
Elizabeth JONES Wife M Female W 40 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG
Annie E. JONES Dau S Female W 14 ENG ENG ENG
Janet JONES Dau S Female W 12 ENG ENG ENG
Frederick JONES Son S Male W 10 PA ENG ENG
Minnie JONES Dau S Female W 6 PA ENG ENG
Earnest JONES Son S Male W 4 PA ENG ENG
George JONES Son S Male W 2 WY ENG ENG
Harry JONES Son S Male W 6M WY ENG ENG
John H. LUTTS Other Male W 22 PA Laborer PA ENG
1900. Evanston, Uinta, Wyoming.
Frederick E Jones 56. Butcher. England.
Elizabeth Jones 61. England.
George L Jones 21. Son. Wyoming.
Francis M Jones 6. Dau. Utah.
1910. Evanston, Uinta, Wyoming.
Freddrick Jones 68. Butcher, meat market.
Elizabeth Jones 71.
George Jones 52. [32]
Francis Jones 16.
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
Jimmy wrote:1870. Scranton Ward 6, Luzerne, Pennsylvania.
Frederick Jones 28. Butcher.
Elizabeth Jones 30.
Annie Jones 4.
Jennie Jones 2.
Edwin Clay 20.
John Thornton 24.
All born England.
1880. Palisade, Eureka, Nevada
Edwin CLAY Self M Male W 29 ENG Boiler Maker ENG ENG
Emma CLAY Wife M Female W 28 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG
Emily CLAY Dau S Female W 8 NY ENG ENG
Edwin CLAY Son S Male W 6 UT ENG ENG
Nellie CLAY Dau S Female W 5 WY ENG ENG
Willie CLAY Son S Male W 3 NV ENG ENG
May CLAY Dau S Female W 1 NV ENG ENG
W. DETHERGE Nephew S Male W 19 ENG R. R. Employee ENG ENG
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1900. Wadsworth, Washoe, Nevada.
Edwin Clay 49. Boiler maker. Emigrated 1868.
Emma Clay 48.
Ellen Clay 25. Dau.
Emily E Cleary 28. Dau.
Elizabeth Clay 33. Mother. Widow. Emigrated 1870. 83 on image.
Chris J Wolfe 23. Lodger.
Frank E Marchant 22. Lodger.
Wm C Randall 38. Lodger.
A C Nicholas 29. Lodger.
Edwin Clay 49. Boiler maker. Emigrated 1868.
Emma Clay 48.
Ellen Clay 25. Dau.
Emily E Cleary 28. Dau.
Elizabeth Clay 33. Mother. Widow. Emigrated 1870. 83 on image.
Chris J Wolfe 23. Lodger.
Frank E Marchant 22. Lodger.
Wm C Randall 38. Lodger.
A C Nicholas 29. Lodger.
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
Many thanks for all the info Jimmy, and thanks to RF for a super fast look up for the Marriage of William Detheridge:-
12.12.1858 St Thomas
William Detheridge Full Bach - Blacksmith Dudley - Edward Detheridge Dead Glass Blower
Elizabeth Clay Minor Spinster - Dudley - George Clay Painter and Glazier
Both signed. Witnesses were Sarah Clay and Charles (Glaze)
I think this is Edward here on BCC, his father Benjamin was a Glass Blower:-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... dge-Family
12.12.1858 St Thomas
William Detheridge Full Bach - Blacksmith Dudley - Edward Detheridge Dead Glass Blower
Elizabeth Clay Minor Spinster - Dudley - George Clay Painter and Glazier
Both signed. Witnesses were Sarah Clay and Charles (Glaze)
I think this is Edward here on BCC, his father Benjamin was a Glass Blower:-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... dge-Family
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
Jimmy wrote:1900. Wadsworth, Washoe, Nevada.
Edwin Clay 49. Boiler maker. Emigrated 1868.
Emma Clay 48.
Ellen Clay 25. Dau.
Emily E Cleary 28. Dau.
Elizabeth Clay ]33. Mother. Widow. Emigrated 1870. 83 on image.
Chris J Wolfe 23. Lodger.
Frank E Marchant 22. Lodger.
Wm C Randall 38. Lodger.
A C Nicholas 29. Lodger.
1861. Holy Hall, Dudley.
Charl Clay 45. Painter. Birming, Warwickshire.
Elizebeth Clay 43. Kingsaryth, Staffordshire.
Emerly Clay 20. Dau. Tipton, Staffordshire.
Sarah Clay 18. Dau. Dudly, Worcestershire.
Edwin Clay 10. Son. Dudley,Worcestershire.
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Cheers for that Jimmy:-
1861. Holy Hall, Dudley.
Charl Clay 45. Painter. Birming, Warwickshire.
Elizebeth Clay 43. Kingsaryth, Staffordshire.
Emerly Clay 20. Dau. Tipton, Staffordshire.
Sarah Clay 18. Dau. Dudly, Worcestershire.
Edwin Clay 10. Son. Dudley,Worcestershire.
The Father should be George, could that be a transcription error
Many thanks from Linell.
1861. Holy Hall, Dudley.
Charl Clay 45. Painter. Birming, Warwickshire.
Elizebeth Clay 43. Kingsaryth, Staffordshire.
Emerly Clay 20. Dau. Tipton, Staffordshire.
Sarah Clay 18. Dau. Dudly, Worcestershire.
Edwin Clay 10. Son. Dudley,Worcestershire.
The Father should be George, could that be a transcription error
Many thanks from Linell.
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
The original article re William's death said Elizabeth's father was Charles:
"The first Witness was Charles Clay, Painter and Glazier from Holly Hall."
Maybe it's the marriage entry that was in error.
1851 at Holly Hall, Dudley
Charles Clay Head 34 Painter b. Warwick, Birmingham
Elizabeth Clay Wife 32 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Charles Clay Son 13 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Clay Daur 11 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Emily Clay Daur 10 Scholar b. Staffs, Tipton
Sarah Clay Daur 8 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
Edwin Clay Son 5 MO Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
"The first Witness was Charles Clay, Painter and Glazier from Holly Hall."
Maybe it's the marriage entry that was in error.
1851 at Holly Hall, Dudley
Charles Clay Head 34 Painter b. Warwick, Birmingham
Elizabeth Clay Wife 32 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Charles Clay Son 13 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Clay Daur 11 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Emily Clay Daur 10 Scholar b. Staffs, Tipton
Sarah Clay Daur 8 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
Edwin Clay Son 5 MO Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
1841 at Town's End, Kingswinford
Charles Clay 25 Painter not born in county
Elizabeth Clay 23 born in county
Charles Clay 3 born in county
Elizebeth Clay 2 born in county
Emily Clay 8 MO born in county
Charles Clay 25 Painter not born in county
Elizabeth Clay 23 born in county
Charles Clay 3 born in county
Elizebeth Clay 2 born in county
Emily Clay 8 MO born in county
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
Documents on an Ancestry public tree, "The Sullivan Family Tree", say that Charles Clay worked on the estate of the Earl of Dudley for 31 years prior to his emigration to America in 1870.
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Re: WILLIAM DETHERIDGE FROM DUDLEY
dianel wrote:1841 at Churchfield Row, Dudley
Edward Ditheridge 30 Glassblower b. in county
Hannah Ditheridge 30 not b. in county
Benjamin Ditheridge 15 b. in county
Mary Ditheridge 10 b. in county
Elizabeth Ditheridge 9 b. in county
William Ditheridge 7 b. in county
Joseph Ditheridge 4 b. in county
Ann Ditheridge 2 b. in county
Poss:
IGI Marriage Extracted:
EDWARD DITHERIDGE
Spouse: HANNAH COLE
Marriage: 22 SEP 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
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