ARC----An Oldswinford Mobberley DownUnder

[kdw]

Marriages looked up Thank You

4 Sept 1865 St Mary Oldswinford
Samuel Hill 21 Bachelor Nail Maker Stamber Mill William Hill Nail Maker
Mary Wooldridge X 22 Spinster Stamber Mill John Wooldridge Anvil Maker
Wit: Eli Parkes X Sarah Ann Pardoe X
Added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =330642308

5 Sept 1858 St Mary Oldswinford
Thomas Pardoe X 23 Bachelor Nail Maker Oldswinford Illegitimate son of Mary Pardoe
Mira Wooldridge X 23 Spinster Lye Waste John Wooldridge Anvil Maker
Wit: John Watkins X Carlone ? X
Added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =568698203

[Northern Lass]

Thomas MOBBERLEY (1815) m. to Ann RUSHTON
6 June 1835 Oldswinford

need to verify this marriage
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =741692308

poss bapt ...to be verified
Samuel Rushton bapt 1836 Kingswinford

Samuel married Elizabeth neal 1st march 1857 Holy Trinity amblecote
needs verifying


Samuel and Elizabeth emigrated......new zealand

[Northern Lass]

Greetings, Everyone. I'm a newbie to this forum, but quite excited by it all.

I have been researching my husband's family tree and came upon the Black Country Connections website. What an amazing effort that is! It was very helpful and reaffirmed that I was on the right track. Thank you!

This MOBBERLEY family line has descended from Raphe MOBBERLEY (born 1570) in Oldswinford. Our early lineage is as follows: John MOBBERLEY (1648)m. to Dorothie HILL - William MOBBERLEY (1683)m. to Sarah SKELDING - William MOBBERLEY (1710) m. to Hannah LANE - William MOBBERLEY (1738) m. to Ann FOLEY- Thomas MOBBERLEY (1776) m. to Elizabeth ROUND - Thomas MOBBERLEY (1815) m. to Ann RUSHTON.


When I follow the family line down to the 1800's things start to diverge and get interesting, and since this information is missing from BBC, I thought I'd pass it on for your confirmation.

Thomas MOBBERLEY (b.1815, Amblecote) married Ann RUSHTON (b.1814, Ashwood) on June 6th, 1835 at Oldswinford. Their firstborn son, Samuel Rushton MOBBERLEY (b. 1836 in Kingswinford) married Elizabeth Ann NEALE (Neil?) on March 1st, 1857 at Stourbridge (possible registry wedding).

They emigrated to Auckland, New Zealand sometime after their son John Waltho MOBBERLEY was born at Stamber Mill, Oldswinford, on August 9th, 1858 and baptised at Oldswinford on April 27th, 1859. They are not located in the 1861 UK census, and their next son Samuel was born April 8th, 1863 in Auckland.

John Waltho married Elizabeth (Eliza) Ann CLARK on Nov. 6th, 1880 at the registry office on Mary St. in Thames, NZ and they eventually left NZ some time after the death of Samuel Rushton MOBBERLEY (Sept. 8th, 1885), leaving mother Betsy and siblings behind, and moved to Sydney, Australia where the family line continues in the area to this day.

(I found a listing for a Mrs Mobberley travelling with a child and infant as passangers on the Wairarapa, sailing from Auckland to NSW on the 25th of April, 1887 and daughter Gertrude was born on May 23rd, 1887 in Sydney).

John Waltho MOBBERLEY appears to have been much loved by his family, and had 9 children, 6 surviving into adulthood. My husband is descended from the eldest son, Charles William MOBBERLEY (b. 1889 at St. Leonards, NSW) who married Elizabeth Blanche PARKER in 1909 at Waterloo, NSW.

If any of you are related to this Mobberley branch of the family and/or wish to add this information to your family tree, please feel free to do so. Any additional information you might have about this branch of the MOBBERLEY tree will be greatly appreciated.

do you have the 1835 marriage at all you can post pls?

or this one in 1857

1857
MOBBERLEY * Samuel NAILE Elizabeth Amblecote, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 015/001/298
MOBBERLEY * Samuel NEALE Elizabeth Amblecote, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 015/001/298

this looks like Thomas' bapt so born 1813

THOMAS MOBBERLEY Christening: 05 SEP 1813 Old Swinford, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THOMAS MOBBERLEY
Mother: ELIZABETH Extracted

[Northern Lass]

JOHN WALTER MOBBERLEY Birth: 09 AUG 1858
Christening: 27 APR 1859 Old Swinford, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL RUSTON MOBBERLEY
Mother: ELIZABETH Extracted

looks like there is this one in 1863

or is this to another family......have you checked the bapts?

HARRY THOMAS MOBBERLEY Christening: 29 MAR 1863 Old Swinford, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL MOBBERLEY
Mother: BETSY Extracted

[kdw]

Oldswinford Parish Reg
5 Sept 1813
Thomas s of Thomas and Elizabeth Mobberley, Brickmaker

[kdw]

Oldswinford Parish Reg
14 May 1798
Thomas Mobberley(Moberley) bach
Elizabeth Round X sp
b.o.t.p.
Wit: William Mobberley, Jane Pardoe

[Bensonsgirl]

Hi Everyone,
Thank you so much for the feedback, especially from Jimmy and Kaye. Very interesting. I am amazed at your knowledge.

I wanted to add that I have an additional leads for the following individuals that may be of interest and help in further verifying facts:

1. Raphe MOBBERLEY- *Born 1550 Norton in the Moors
married to UNKNOWN, Ann

2. John MOBBERLEY, born *1580 Oldswinford, Worcestershire married to Margaret UNKNOWN born 1644 and died December, 1681.
Margaret Mobberley, daughter - listed in BBC as born abt 1645 and christened on 9th of February, 1645 St Mary, Oldswinford. (Possibly the twin sister of Issaber (misspelled?) MOBBERLEY as they were christened on the same day with the same father John listed ?)
Kaye shows that John was living with daughters Isabell and Margaret in 1666.
I have the following:
"John Mobberley, the elder, Isabell Mobberley, Margaret Mobberley. Property:Tenement and land near the Lye in the parish of Oldswinford, on the lane leading from Saltbrooke towards Careless Greene and the lane from Waste Hayes Common.. [Birmingham Date: 1666

** I believe this Margaret MOBBERLEY married a Thomas ARCH on the 31st of November 1669 in Oldswinford.
(Even though November should have 30 days)

3. I have Sarah SKELDING's death in February, 1715 Oldswinford
and her parent's listed as SKELDING, William b. 1639 m. UNKNOWN, Alice. (and his father SKELDING, Francis, 1607)

4. I have Thomas MOBBERLEY born 1776 and death on 23rd, September, 1841 at Whittymore, Worcestershire

5. I have his son Thomas MOBBERLEY, born ABT 1813 and death on 29th of May, 1863 and his wife Ann RUSHTON's place of birth as Ashwood, Ridge Hill Staffs. in 1814.

Finally, I come to Samuel Rushton Mobberley, born in 1836 at Kingswinford. He died in New Zealand on Sept. 8th, 1885 at the age of 47. (online historical BDM records for NZ)

For your interest- in the Auckland Star, Volume XXVI, Issue 140, 22 June 1885, Page 2 - an arrest was made for the assaulting of Samuel Mobberley 'an old man' in Chapel Street who was 'very much injured'. Samuel was working as a groom at the time. He died 2 and a half months later at the 'old' age of 47! I wonder how much the blow to the head had to do with his demise?

Samuel's wife, Elizabeth Ann Mobberley died in New Zealand on May 26th, 1897 in Auckland, NZ at the age of 59. (online historical BDM records for NZ). This would make her birth date to be ABT 1838 in Stourbridge. Her parents are said to be Thomas Neil and Elizabeth Neil (sic) (source Mary Hollis/Avis Taylor).

REQUEST: I would appreciate any suggestions concerning how to clarify the birth details and parents of this Elizabeth.

One final question. Do you want confirmation of the additional children born to Samuel Rushton MOBBERLEY and Elizabeth Ann MOBBERLEY in New Zealand and Australia? How far down the line do you want to go on Black Country Connections? I have further documented information if you are interested in adding it.

Thanks again for all your assistance.

[Northern Lass]

Hi there you can confirm the parents via a look up on the marriage
I have added it to the list and will look it up and update Bcc with the info

Kaye do you fancy having a look at this info Bensongirl has given
and seeing what you think we need to amend

[kdw]

Will have a look

These gave me a headache the first time i ever did them

[Northern Lass]

Will have a look

These gave me a headache the first time i ever did them

Just been contacted by another rellie of these via Bcc

benson girl send me a pm and we can have a chat

[kdw]

Amended and added what i can

[Northern Lass]

Amended and added what i can

Many thanks Kdw
and thanks to Bensongirl too for your help

brill work all!

[kdw]

There are loads more connections but my brain aches now

[Bensonsgirl]

I know all about the brain aches. I can't believe how much focussed energy this takes. I hope I haven't dumped too much in one go, but I figured I'd better get it all on paper while the gettin' is good!
Cheers.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks again Benson Girl

I will look that marriage up and as I say update Bcc with info on Samuel and Elizabeth

if Bcc is something you are interested in you can pm me and we can have a chat

Cheers

going to now flag this to archive