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ARC TBC..............Burial Henry While (Wyle)

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Bob from Wyoming here.
I will be visiting the Black Country starting July 17th and need a little help with my great grandparents.
From the death certificate, Henry While, born 1824 in Netherton and died April 13, 1881, age 57, at 73 Halesowen Road in Netherton. Married to Sarah (Roberts) While. No known church affiliation. Where might he be buried? Where should I look? I would like to visit the graves and pay my respects.
Sarah (Roberts) While, the wife of Henry While, born about 1824 in Netherton. 1891 Uk Census, age 68, living on her own means, living at 73 Halesowen Road in Netherton with her family. Seems to disapear after that. When did she die and where is she buried? No known church affiliation other than her son John was married in St. John's Church in Dudley on Oct. 26, 1891 at which time she was still alive.
Henry and Sarah along with their family are listed in the Black Country Connections under Henry Wyle, 1825.
Thanks for any help you may give me,
Bob
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ROBERTS Sarah WILD Henry Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/001/499 1845
WHILE John HADLEY Louisa Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/415 1891
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St Andrew Dudley Burials
3 May 1881 Henry While Netherton 57yrs
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WHILE, Sarah
Registration District: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 67
Volume No: 6C
Page No: 62


St Andrew Dudley Burials
Sarah While 73 Halesowen Road Buried 19 May 1897 67yrs
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nice one Jimmy and RF

there you go Bob

now if they had headstones then we should be able to find the plot via the
St Andrews Netherton Graveyard plan at archives

if not or nothing left on burial with name ie pot vase
then we need to contact church
I have left a message with the vicar
will update here when I hear back
http://www.achurchnearyou.com/netherton ... ew-church/

will update bcc with this
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rockyfowler wrote:ROBERTS Sarah WILD Henry Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/001/499 1845
WHILE John HADLEY Louisa Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/415 1891


Bob do you have the marriage details for John While and Louisa Hadley pls
just wondering if this is louisa
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Heard back from the vicar at the church
not good news I am afraid :(

the vicar has kindly checked the database and
there mustn't have been a headstone or other indicator
so although they are buried there, as we have them in the register,
we are unable to find where ie which plot.

We can still have a look just to dble check at archives
but I think we will be unlucky
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You are guys are amazing! I left for a few hours and look what I came back too. Fantastic!

In summary, Henry and Sarah are both buried at St. Andrews in Netherton.

Even if they don't have a stone, I can visit the cemetery. Thanks to all.

According to my notes, my great grandfather John While, the son of Henry While and Sarah (Roberts) While married Louisa Hadley, from West Bromwich in Saint John's Church, Kates's Hill, in Dudley on October 26, 1891. One month later they left for Wyoming in the U.S. The only other thing I have is Lousia Hadley was confirmed at Christ Church in West Bromwich on April 3, 1882, by the Lord Bishop of Lichfield.

Thanks,
Bob
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Northern Lass wrote:
rockyfowler wrote:ROBERTS Sarah WILD Henry Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/001/499 1845
WHILE John HADLEY Louisa Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/415 1891


Bob do you have the marriage details for John While and Louisa Hadley pls
just wondering if this is louisa
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections


Northern Lass,
I don't think that is Lousia HADLEY. Her father was John HADLEY and her mother was Sarah (BAKER) HADLEY.
Bob
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St Andrews Netherton

no henry but poss got his son william henry



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william henry daug elizabeth


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1881 73 Halesowen Road, Netherton

Henry While Head 59 Grocer b. Worcs., Netherton
Sarah While Wife 57 b. Worcs., Netherton
John While Son 25 Coal Miner b. Worcs., Netherton
Jane While Daur 16 Servant Domestic b. Worcs., Netherton
Job While Son 13 Scholar b. Worcs., Netherton
Richard While Son 11 Scholar b. Worcs., Netherton



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1881 71 Halesowen Road, Netherton

Elizabeth WHILE Widow (Head) 71 Dudley, Worcester, House Keeper
Caron FARMER Dau U 48 Dudley, Worcester, Nailor
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also in netherton st andrews poss brother for henry ?

1881; Simms Lane. Dudley, Worcester

James WHILE 55 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner And Grocer
Rosehannah WHILE 55 Netherton, Worcester,
Mary WHILE 32 Netherton, Worcester,
Emily WHILE 19 Netherton, Worcester,
William HUGHES Grandson 2 Netherton, Worcester,



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also his daug

STOKES Joseph WHILE Mary 1882 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/009/202


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I am searching for evidence to tie the Henry and Sarah (ROBERTS) WHILE and Richard and Elizabeth (ROBERTS) COX families together.
We know the two families are related, we just can not agree on how.

Sarah (ROBERTS) WHILE, had a sister Elizabeth (ROBERTS) COX. Elizabeth married Richard COX in England. Elizabeth and Richard had three children when they arrived in the U.S. Joseph, b. 1856; Jane, b. 1858 and Robert, b. 1864 all born in Enland and immigrated to the U.S. in 1869. Mary, listed in the 1861 UK census does not show up in the US census. Richard may have immigrated a year of so ealier.

What I have is listed below:

Elizabeth (ROBERTS) COX
1827 Elizabeth Cox birth year according to her headstone in the U.S.
1851 Elizabeth Cox, age 21, born about 1830 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England was living in Kinswinford England with her husband Richard, a coal miner, age 24, born about 1827 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England (1851 England Census)
1861 Elizabeth Cox, head of house, no occupation, a miner's wife, age 29, born in Dudley, was living in Dudley, Worcestershire, England with her children Joseph, age 9, born in Dudley, Jane, age 5, born in Dudley, and Mary, age 11 months, born in Dudley. (1861 England Census) Note: Richard was not listed in the census nor was Robert. Robert would not be born until 1863.
1869 Elizabeth'immigrated to the U.S. (1900 U.S. Census)
1880 Elizabeth Cox, born about 1832, occupation keeping house, age 48, born in England was living in Saint Clair, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania with her husband Richard Cox, born about 1830 in England, age 50, a coal miner, and her son Robert J. Cox, age 16, a fan turner in the coal mine, a single, white, male, born about 1864 in England. (1880 U.S. Census)

I am looking for a record that will connect Sarah (ROBERTS) WHILE AND Elizabeth (ROBERTS) COX together.

Thanks again,
Bob
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