ARC TBC - lost children

[Jimmy]

Which Rebecca,

Name: Florence Rebecca Gameson.
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1865.
Registration district: Birmingham.
Inferred County: Warwickshire.
Volume: 6d.
Page: 24.

Name: Rebecca Tracey M Gameson.
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1867.
Registration district: Birmingham.
Inferred County: Warwickshire.
Volume: 6d.
Page: 87.

Name: Edward Henry Gameson.
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1864.
Registration district: Birmingham.
Inferred County: Warwickshire.
Volume: 6d.
Page: 72.

[Jimmy]

Clifford Hipkins.
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Sep 1870.
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK.
Father's Name: James Hipkins.
Mother's Name: Kate.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: J04117-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 817175.

Winnifred Ada Hipkins.
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Oct 1872.
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK.
Father's Name: James Hipkins.
Mother's Name: Kate.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: K04117-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 817175.

[Jimmy]

Which Rebecca,

Name: Florence Rebecca Gameson.
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1865.
Registration district: Birmingham.
Inferred County: Warwickshire.
Volume: 6d.
Page: 24.

Name: Rebecca Tracey M Gameson.
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1867.
Registration district: Birmingham.
Inferred County: Warwickshire.
Volume: 6d.
Page: 87.

Same name for parents, or did the first one die.

Florence Rebecca Gameson.
Gender: Female.
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Aug 1865.
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK.
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1865.
Father's Name: Henry Gameson.
Mother's Name: Rebecca.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04117-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 817175.

Tracer Rebecca Morriss Gamrson.
Baptism/Christening Date: 31 Aug 1868.
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARTIN,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK.
Father's Name: Henry Gamrson.
Mother's Name: Rebecca Mary.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06300-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 919776.

[Jimmy]

There is this marriage, and looking at the 1901 census, this Florence married Frederick John Mason, but is she the right one,
Marriages Sep 1898.
Gameson Florence. Aston. 6d. 539.
Knowles Florence Jane. Aston. 6d. 539.
Mason Frederick John. Aston. 6d. 539.
Shirley Charle.s Aston. 6d. 539.

1901. Aston.
Charles Shirley 29.
Florence J Shirley 29.
Eva Ab A Knowler 17. Sister-in-Law.

[steverostill]

so its looking like henry and rebecca had two kids called edward and rebecca and when rebecca passed away henry moved kate and her two kids in after her partner james passed away and then in 1881 the enumerator lumped them all together as gamesons.
it seems more than feasible to me.

steve

[steverostill]

looking at GRO theres a florence r gameson death in mar 1866. never new about her as not indicated in census and i havent done PR searches for this line of enquiry yet.

just to find edward and rebbeca now.

many thanks all.

[gardener]

Was Edward the one born Jun qtr 1864 Birmingham? Edward Henry Gameson.
I wonder if he switched to his middle name? The 1891 and 1901 have entries for Henry Gameson b 1866 in Warwickshire but living in Yorkshire, and by 1901 he is married to Amelia.

[steverostill]

yes thats the correct edward henry gameson.

wondering what happened to Kate now......

[steverostill]

there are no other henry gamesons born in the decade 1860 to 1870 so who else could it be.

nice work everyone.

[Jimmy]

Marriages Dec 1891.
Cavanagh Amelia Elizabeth. York. 9d. 17.
Coates Augustus Alfred. York . 9d. 17.
Dutton Alice. York 9d. 17.
Gameson Henry. York 9d. 17.

[Jimmy]

Could this be the same Clifford Hipkins.

1911. basics, Aston.

HIPKINS CLIFFORD. 1871. 40. Born Aston.

Clifford Hipkins.
Birth Date: abt 1871.
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929.
Age at Death: 58.
Registration district: Warwick.
Inferred County: Warwickshire.
Volume: 6d.
Page: 855.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941.
Name: Clifford Hipkins
Probate Date: 8 Jul 1929.
Death Date: 9 Jun 1929.
Death Place: Leamington Spa, Warwickshire.
Registry: Birmingham.

Hipkins Clifford, of the Royal Midland Counties Home for Incurables, Leamington Spa, died 9 June, 1929. Probate London to Frederick Pyatt Chellingworth company secretary. Effects £338. 5s. 8d.

[Jimmy]

Name: Rebecca Tracey M Gameson.
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1867.
Registration district: Birmingham.
Inferred County: Warwickshire.
Volume: 6d.
Page: 87.

This is a long shot, could Theresa be Rebacca Tracey Gamesom, father Henry on marriage,

Marriages Dec 1888.
DUNN Charles. Aston 6d. 587.
GAMESON Theresa. Aston. 6d. 587.
GAMESTON Theresa. Aston. 6d. 587.
HUMPHRIES John Edward. Aston. 6d 587.
MASON Ann. Aston. 6d. 587.

Charles Dunn.
Groom's Birth Date: 1860.
Groom's Age: 28.
Bride's Name: Teresa Gamesion.
Bride's Birth Date: 1866.
Bride's Age: 22.
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1888.
Marriage Place: Sparkbrook, Warwick.
Groom's Father's Name: Charles Dunn.
Bride's Father's Name: Henry Gamesion.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00731-9.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1520095.
Reference Number: it 5, p 83, no 166.

1891. 120 Wills St, Aston.
Charles Dunn 29. Lamp manufacture. Aldershot, Ken.
Tracey Dunn 26. Birmingham, Warwickshire.

1901. 53 Trinity Rd, Handsworth, Warwickshire.
Charles Dunn 40. Tin plate worker, Employer. Chatham, Kent.
Taicey Dunn 34. Birmingham, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Alice Boddy 20. Servant. Yorkshire.

[steverostill]

its looking good but dont know where the name theersa has appeared from?
there are definitely no GRO births for a Theresa Gameson of that age.
then for the census returns she is Tracey, at least that is one of her names.

would be nice to know where Kate has got to.
i will assume that she never actually married Henry, there being no proof, and so she is going under the surname Hipkins or Hodgetts.

thanks.

[steverostill]

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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BEAUCHAMP Thomas Birmingham 6d 180
BENNETT Henry Birmingham 6d 180
Hipkins Kate Birmingham 6d 180
Whitmore Charlotte Mary A Birmingham 6d 180

perhaps??????

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