Sarah Jane HACKETTand Ebenezer GREAVES(-Mally adding

[expat66]

only marriage i can see

DAVID GREAVES
MARY GOLDEN
Marriage: 04 JAN 1802 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

Just looking at this record peterd...
I am now into a bit of a 'grey area' on my family tree on 'ancestry.co.uk' when I get to this point I just have info. from other people's trees... or from IGI ( it's a bit tenuous!)
Here is what I have..... don't know if anyone can help to confirm any of this... or tell me it is all complete 'tosh'!

I have a David GREAVES married to Mary GOLDING in Cradley in 1828
I have David GREAVES born in Old Hill, Staffs 19 Apr 1778 ( that makes him 50 at this marriage in 1828... if it is the same David) and after all those children have been born
Could the marriage you found be the correct on.... and the one I have... a wrong one or a second marriage?
I have David GREAVES death as 1848 in Halesowen

For David GREAVES parents I have William GREAVES(1741-1818 Harborne) and Phebe ALLEN(1746-1824) married 14 Jun 1773

and William's father Austin GREAVES(1719 Harborne, died 6 Aug 1788) married to Ann MOORE ( 1720-1791Harborne) in St. Peters Church 18 May 1738 Harborne

Austin's parents Isaac GREAVES(1691-1767) and Sarah(1694-1762)

That's all
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[mallosa]

Just trying to work it out....

Extracted.
FANNY GREAVES.
THOMAS ROSE.
Marriage, 01 OCT 1825. Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick.

1841 census Spring Hill
Thomas ROSE(35) nailer
Fanny ROSE(35)
David GREAVES(20) nailer
all born in county

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1851: Little Cornbow
Thomas Rose 48 Nailor
Fanny Rose 46 Nailor
David Graves (Greaves on Image) 30 Brother in Law U Nailor
Anna Graves 11 Niece
(all born Halesowen)

1861: Hodgkins Yard, Little Cornbow, Halesowen
Thomas Rose 59 Head Nailmaker
Fanny Rose 59 Wife Nailmaker
David Greaves 41 Lodger U Nailmaker
(all born Halesowen)

[mallosa]

Haven't added that yet, still plenty more to go on
This is as far as I've got -here

Off to bed now - Goodnight

[linell]

San the children were all born Halesowen not Cradley, according to the Register, looks like they worshipped at Cradley Baptist Chapel, there wasn't one that I know of in Halesowen until much later, they probably walked there and back every Sunday unless they had a cart.

HTH Linell.

[peterd]

peterd?

Where did you get all those 'Particular Baptist' births from.... they are really useful to me.... can add them to my tree as I didn't have those
Thankyou!
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got them of IGI

[mallosa]

San the children were all born Halesowen not Cradley, according to the Register, looks like they worshipped at Cradley Baptist Chapel, there wasn't one that I know of in Halesowen until much later, they probably walked there and back every Sunday unless they had a cart.

HTH Linell.

Thanks for that Linell, sorted

[linell]

Sorry San, didn't want to give you more work to do

Cheers from Lin.

[linell]

Found this one Samuel son of David and Mary Greaves Born 23.1.1825 - Dedicated 20.2.1825 by Mr Smith (deacon) Samuel Greaves an Infant - Buried 27.4.1826.

HTH Lin.

[peterd]

extracted

EBENEZER GREAVES
Birth: 22 SEP 1816 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,

Father: DAVID GREAVES
Mother: MARY


siblings

JAMES GREAVES
Birth: 15 JUN 1813 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,

CORNELIOUS GREAVES
Birth: 05 NOV 1807 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,

HEPHZABATH GREAVES
Birth: 06 SEP 1810 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,
Death: JUL 1811

SAMUEL GREAVES
Birth: 23 JAN 1825 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,
Death: 27 APR 1826

DAVID GREAVES
Birth: 14 MAR 1820 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,

MARY GREAVES
Birth: 25 AUG 1802 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,

MARY ANN GREAVES
Birth: 25 AUG 1812 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester,

think these are them linell ?

[linell]

Yes they are all listed Pete, Parents David and Mary Greaves are stated to be 'of Halesowen.'

Lin.

[mallosa]

ebernezer died before

1881 Birmingham St Brook Road, Halesowen, Worcester

Lowly GREAVES Head W 62 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailor
Samuel GREAVES 42 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailor
William GREAVES 23 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailor

Confused

1891: Brook Road, Halesowen
Harriett Greaves 43 Head Wid Nailmaker .....must be Davids wife? born 1848
Harriett L Greaves 7 Dau
Samuel Greaves 5 Son
Miriam Greaves 3 Dau
Lowly Greaves 73 Mother in Law Wid

So who is this then?

1891: Brook Road, Halesowen
David Greaves 50 Nailmaker
Hariett Greaves 48 Nailmaker born 1843
Abigal Greaves 19 Dau S Button Polisher
George Greaves 13 Son Ag Farm Lab
May Greaves 9 Dau
(all born Halesowen)

same family Daniel/David

1881: Brook Road, Halesowen
Daniel Greaves 40 Nailor
Harriet Greaves 38 born 1843
Mary Ann Greaves 14
Abigail Greaves 9
George Greaves 3

[peterd]

1891: Brook Road, Halesowen
Harriett Greaves 43 Head Wid Nailmaker .....must be Davids wife? born 1848
Harriett L Greaves 7 Dau
Samuel Greaves 5 Son
Miriam Greaves 3 Dau
Lowly Greaves 73 Mother in Law Wid

could there be another son who married a harriett ?

[expat66]

Yes there was another son... Samuel GREAVES ( 1838-1889) who married Harriet COLEY (1846-1915)

They married in 1881 at St. John the Baptist Church Halesowen

Their 3 children were... Harriet Lowly GREAVES (1884-1963)
Samuel Ebenezer GREAVES (1885-1958)
Miriam GREAVES (1887-1982)

This information was all supplied to me by a distant relative.

I think I found the Samuel GREAVES (1838-1889) (who married Harriet) as a resident of the Royal Naval Hospital Alverstoke, Hampshire on the 1871 census.

I think I also have him on the 1881 census ( before his marriage)
Brook Rd.
Lowly GREAVES (62) head of house... widow... nailer... born in Halesowen
Samuel GREAVES (42) single..son...nailer... born "
William GREAVES (23) single..son..nailer.. born "

I will list separately all the children I have for Ebenezer and Lowly

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[expat66]

This is what I have in my tree....

Ebenezer GREAVES (1816-1871) married to Lowly ADAMS(1819-1898)
had the following children:-

Samuel GREAVES (1838-1889)........... (married Harriet COLEY (1846-1915))
David GREAVES (1841-1905)............ (married Harriet GUEST (1843-1905))
Eliza GREAVES (1847-1909)............. (married John HYDE (1849-1911))
Eli GREAVES (1848-1928)................( married Phoebe NEWTON (1841-1914))
Ebenezer GREAVES (1850-1925)........( married Sarah Jane HACKETT (1854-1946))
James GREAVES (1853-1925)............ (married Mary Ann CROSS (1856-1910))
Caleb GREAVES (1855-1857)
William GREAVES (1858-1936).......... (married Eliza JONES (1858-1939))

there are, of course, numerous grandchildren.... too many to list here!

Hope this helps to make sense of some of the census info. you found.

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[kdw]

Halesowen Parish Reg
25 Dec 1876
James Greaves 23 Bachelor Nailer Boro Ebenezer Greaves Nailer
Mary Ann Cross 20 Spinster Boro Thomas Cross Labourer
David Greaves Jane Cross

8 Oct 1881
Samuel Greaves 40 Bachelor Nailer Boro Ebenezer Greaves Nailer
Harriet Colet 32 Spinster Servant Boro John Coley Nailer
William Greaves Sarah Ann Coley