Hi everyone. I`ve just joined in the hope that some-one may have a hammer large enough to knock down the brick wall I`ve hit!
My paternal great-grandparents were Charlotte Dibble, born in Dorking 3rd Jan 1857 & died in Canada 23rd Feb 1943 & William Baker born as far as I can find out 9th Nov 1852 ( all I have for place of birth is "England") died Canada 22nd Jan 1933. They married at The Parish Church, Dorking on 20th Dec 1882.All I can find going back on William is that his father was called John(deceased), no mention of his mother! Charlotte`s parents were Charles Dibble, born abt 1831 in Dorking & Caroline Tanner, born abt1833 in Abinger, Surrey. They were married abt Jun 1855 in Dorking. I`m mainly concerned with trying to get more info on William, ie: place of birth & parents details. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I`m fairly new to this! Best wishes, Maggi.
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Hello Maggi and welcome to the forum, hope you soon knock down your brick wall.
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Hi MAggi and welcome
What sort of Occupation appears for William on his Marriage certificate? -- that might give a lead -- were any of his famiily the witnesses?
MAths girl
What sort of Occupation appears for William on his Marriage certificate? -- that might give a lead -- were any of his famiily the witnesses?
MAths girl
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Re: Baker/Dibble
Without an occupation, this is a long shot.
1861. 82 East Lane, Bermondsey.
John I Baker 41. Master Rope maker, employing 60 men and 10 boys. St Olaves, Surrey.
Lydia H Baker 35. Rotherhithe.
John M Baker 17.
William H Baker 10.
Thomas R Baker 9.
Lydia J Baker 5.
Mary A E Baker 2.
Lydia C Adams 19.
Jane Taylor 25. Servant.
Elizabeth Beck 21. Servant.
Other Bakes born Bermondsey.
1871. Bermondsey, Surrey.
John Baker 50. Rope maker. Southwark St Olaves.
Lydia Baker 44. Rotherhithe.
John Baker 26.
George Baker 23.
William Baker 19. Mauiur. Can't make out occupation..
Thomas Baker 17.
Lydia Baker 14.
Mary Ann Baker 11.
Jane Baker 9.
Stapleton Baker 7.
Herbert Baker 5.
Mary Hart Baker 32. Servant.
All others born Bermondsey, Surrey.
1881.
Lydia H. BAKER Head M Female 55 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Ropemakers Wife
Thomas R. BAKER Son U Male 27 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Manager Oil Wharf
Stapleton G. BAKER Son Male 17 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Tea Dealers Clerk (...)
39 Billington St.
Deptford St Paul, Kent.
1861. 82 East Lane, Bermondsey.
John I Baker 41. Master Rope maker, employing 60 men and 10 boys. St Olaves, Surrey.
Lydia H Baker 35. Rotherhithe.
John M Baker 17.
William H Baker 10.
Thomas R Baker 9.
Lydia J Baker 5.
Mary A E Baker 2.
Lydia C Adams 19.
Jane Taylor 25. Servant.
Elizabeth Beck 21. Servant.
Other Bakes born Bermondsey.
1871. Bermondsey, Surrey.
John Baker 50. Rope maker. Southwark St Olaves.
Lydia Baker 44. Rotherhithe.
John Baker 26.
George Baker 23.
William Baker 19. Mauiur. Can't make out occupation..
Thomas Baker 17.
Lydia Baker 14.
Mary Ann Baker 11.
Jane Baker 9.
Stapleton Baker 7.
Herbert Baker 5.
Mary Hart Baker 32. Servant.
All others born Bermondsey, Surrey.
1881.
Lydia H. BAKER Head M Female 55 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Ropemakers Wife
Thomas R. BAKER Son U Male 27 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Manager Oil Wharf
Stapleton G. BAKER Son Male 17 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Tea Dealers Clerk (...)
39 Billington St.
Deptford St Paul, Kent.
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Jimmy wrote:1871. Bermondsey, Surrey.
John Baker 50. Rope maker. Southwark St Olaves.
Lydia Baker 44. Rotherhithe.
John Baker 26.
George Baker 23.
William Baker 19. Mauiur. Can't make out occupation..
Thomas Baker 17.
Lydia Baker 14.
Mary Ann Baker 11.
Jane Baker 9.
Stapleton Baker 7.
Herbert Baker 5.
Mary Hart Baker 32. Servant.
Hart name on this one,
1881.
George SCOVELL Head M Male 49 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Retired Italian Warehouseman
Martha SCOVELL Wife M Female 44 Farnham, Surrey, England
Mary E. SCOVELL Daur U Female 21 Kensington, Middlesex, England
Fanny SCOVELL Daur U Female 18 Kensington, Middlesex, England
Emily J. SCOVELL Daur U Female 15 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Scholar
Annie SCOVELL Daur U Female 12 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Scholar
Richard H. SCOVELL Son U Male 5 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Scholar
William BAKER Brother In Law U Male 29 Thursley, Surrey, England Printer & Stationer
Mary HART Cousin U Female 21 Frensham, Surrey, England Visitor
Annie HART Cousin U Female 20 Frensham, Surrey, England Visitor
Elizabeth BOND Serv W Female 41 Swaffon, Suffolk, England Cook
Mary WHITE Serv U Female 23 Winchfield, Surrey, England Housemaid
The Mall Hampton Rd.
Twickenham, Middlesex.
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Re: Baker/Dibble
Could that occupation be mariner?
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I did wonder if it said Mariner,
William Henry Baker.
Record Type: Baptism.
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852.( May the 11, 1852.)
Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1852.
Father's name: John Joseph Baker. Rope maker.
Mother's name: Lydia Hayes Baker.
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St James.
Borough: Southwark.
John Joseph Baker. Rope maker.
Age: Full Age.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843.
Spouse Name: Lydia Hayes Munton.
Record Type: Marriage.
Marriage Date: 17 Sep 1843.
Parish: St Mary, Rotherhithe.
COUNTY: Surrey.
Borough: Southwark.
Father Name: George Baker. Rope maker.
Spouse Father Name: Davison Stapleton Munton. Gentleman.
William Henry Baker.
Record Type: Baptism.
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852.( May the 11, 1852.)
Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1852.
Father's name: John Joseph Baker. Rope maker.
Mother's name: Lydia Hayes Baker.
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St James.
Borough: Southwark.
John Joseph Baker. Rope maker.
Age: Full Age.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843.
Spouse Name: Lydia Hayes Munton.
Record Type: Marriage.
Marriage Date: 17 Sep 1843.
Parish: St Mary, Rotherhithe.
COUNTY: Surrey.
Borough: Southwark.
Father Name: George Baker. Rope maker.
Spouse Father Name: Davison Stapleton Munton. Gentleman.
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On the marriage certificate William`s occupation is listed as coal miner, at least that`s what I make it to be.
His place of residence is Dorking, no address! I`ve tried the census records, but couldn`t find any trace of William
or John. I`ll try looking up the info you have kindly given - many thanks, Maggi.
His place of residence is Dorking, no address! I`ve tried the census records, but couldn`t find any trace of William
or John. I`ll try looking up the info you have kindly given - many thanks, Maggi.
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Forgot witness details in last post! They were Emily Jane Creed & Frank Farr. I don`t know if they were related or not,but it will be worth checking.
Thankyou for all info given, I will investigate them further.
Thankyou for all info given, I will investigate them further.
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Re: Baker/Dibble
Maggi wrote:Hi everyone. I`ve just joined in the hope that some-one may have a hammer large enough to knock down the brick wall I`ve hit!
My paternal great-grandparents were Charlotte Dibble, born in Dorking 3rd Jan 1857 & died in Canada 23rd Feb 1943 & William Baker born as far as I can find out 9th Nov 1852 ( all I have for place of birth is "England") died Canada 22nd Jan 1933. They married at The Parish Church, Dorking on 20th Dec 1882.All I can find going back on William is that his father was called John(deceased), no mention of his mother! Charlotte`s parents were Charles Dibble, born abt 1831 in Dorking & Caroline Tanner, born abt1833 in Abinger, Surrey. They were married abt Jun 1855 in Dorking. I`m mainly concerned with trying to get more info on William, ie: place of birth & parents details. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I`m fairly new to this! Best wishes, Maggi.
did william ever return for a visit to england as there might be a visiting address also did you find the ship he emigrated on might be some info there too ?
is the canada passport info online like the usa ?
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When did they go to Canada.
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They must have gone to Canada sometime between their marriage on Dec 20th 1882 & the birth of their eldest
child Alice (my grandmother)in Wellington BC in 1885. Unfortunately I haven`t been able to find out a date.
child Alice (my grandmother)in Wellington BC in 1885. Unfortunately I haven`t been able to find out a date.
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Re: Baker/Dibble
Hi Maggi
William Henry Baker son of John Joseph Baker in Bermondsey would not seem to be the correct William.
In 1882, John Joseph Baker was still alive. He died in 1894. It is also unlikely that John Joseph's son would be a coal miner. JJ himself was a ropemaker and had a ropeyard in Bermondsey. Most of his sons followed him into the trade, although a couple went into sailmaking. The occupation for William Henry Baker on the 1871 census is 'mariner'.
Best wishes,
Paulette
William Henry Baker son of John Joseph Baker in Bermondsey would not seem to be the correct William.
In 1882, John Joseph Baker was still alive. He died in 1894. It is also unlikely that John Joseph's son would be a coal miner. JJ himself was a ropemaker and had a ropeyard in Bermondsey. Most of his sons followed him into the trade, although a couple went into sailmaking. The occupation for William Henry Baker on the 1871 census is 'mariner'.
Best wishes,
Paulette