ARC TBC..........Bert Wilkinson

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Hello i seem have come to a dead end in finding more info on my Grandad Bert Wilkinson. I know hw was born around 1898 and Married Clara Lydia Smith (around 1894) in 1917 but cant find any more info concerning there parents or when they passed away any help would be grately appreciated. Martin

[peterd]

Have you searched for a marriage cert ?

try here

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

[rockyfowler]

WILKINSON, Albert E
Ecclesall Bierlow
Yorkshire
1919
Oct-Nov-Dec
Rodgers
9C
923

RODGERS, Clara L
Ecclesall Bierlow
Yorkshire
1919
Oct-Nov-Dec
Wilkinson
9C

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Yeah ive searched BMD and it came up with this - Marriages Mar 1917 - Wilkinson Bert Smith W.Bromwich 6b 1076 doesnt say anything about there parents or witnesses

[peterd]

Yeah ive searched BMD and it came up with this - Marriages Mar 1917 - Wilkinson Bert Smith W.Bromwich 6b 1076 doesnt say anything about there parents or witnesses

no you will have to send for a copy of the cert and that will give you more detial including there fathers names and professision

[peterd]

if you click on the 1076 this is what you will be shown


Marriages Mar 1917

EDWARDS Thomas Sperring W. Bromwich 6b 1076
Smith Clara L Wilkinson W.Bromwich 6b 1076
Sperring Sarah A Edwards W.Bromwich 6b 1076
Wilkinson Bert Smith W.Bromwich 6b 1076


ive underlined your family the cost is £9 from the GRO

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The thing i forgot to say was they are from the west bromwich area and they had between 8 and 10 children. blimey

[peterd]

how sure are you about the name ?

try this site

http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/cgi/m ... stmidlands

and see what you find ? clue dont put any first name initials in

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It came up with the same Birth Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Region Reference Order On-line
WILKINSON Bert 1898 West Bromwich South West Sandwell Register Office West Midlands WBSW/121/36
N/A

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Marriage Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Spouse's Surname Spouse's Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Region Reference Order On-line
WILKINSON Bert SMITH Clara 1917 West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office West Midlands WBRO/63/147
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The weird thing is i cant find anything in the 1901 or the 1911 census about them but i know my Grandad was in the army in ww2 in italy.
I got as far as 1840 on my moms side of the family Joseph Clive around 1840 married a Mary ? 1849 who had children Isiah Clive 1866. Joseph Clive 1862 and Edward Clive 1868 but again hit a brick wall.

[peterd]

if you didnt put inial in you should of seen this

WILKINSON Albert SMITH Clara Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/040/138

WILKINSON Bert SMITH Clara West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office WBRO/63/147



two wilkinson marring each a clara smith ?

bert also could be short for albert

do you have your father birth cert and does it say clara lydia smith and bert wilkinson as parents ?

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Yeah its says Bert wilkinson and Clara Lydia Smith. I questioned that before about Bert being short for Albert. I will have to order the marriage certificate before i can go any further. Thanks for your help. What would i have to do to find the rest of the family on my mothers side ?

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will move this to general disscusion to see if we can find anything on the clive side

The weird thing is i cant find anything in the 1901 or the 1911 census about them but i know my Grandad was in the army in ww2 in italy.
I got as far as 1840 on my moms side of the family Joseph Clive around 1840 married a Mary ? 1849 who had children Isiah Clive 1866. Joseph Clive 1862 and Edward Clive 1868 but again hit a brick wall.

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is this the cilve family as it says mary not married and her mother ann is there ?


1881; 12 Messenger Lane, West Bromwich, Stafford


Mary CLIVE Head U 50 West Bromwich Laundress
Joseph CLIVE 19 West Bromwich (Iron) Holloware Turner
Isiah CLIVE 15 West Bromwich Box Iron Fitter
Edward CLIVE 13 West Bromwich Spring Maker
Ann CLIVE Mother W 77 West Bromwich Disabled
Isiah TIMMINS Boarder M 68 West Bromwich Disabled

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poss mary

MARY CLIVE
Christening: 27 MAR 1831 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford,

Father: FREDE. CLIVE
Mother: ANN


poss sibling

GEORGE CLIVE
Christening: 11 MAR 1827 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

Father: FREDERIC CLIVE
Mother: ANN

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Yes thats the clives. So the mother is Ann, wonder what her maiden name is? Or is she a clive ? This gets so confusing. Glad you know what your doing. Your being a great help.