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ARC TBC..............Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:38 pm
by nailer2011
Jan,

Sorry to make a a further reference to the Billinghams :oops:

However, while checking my research on the (H)Ingley family of Isaac Ingley who married Esther (nee Perry), I noticed that BCC has a record of the marriage of Isaac's daughter, Elizabeth, to Joseph Davies and some of their children, but it also has a separate entry for the marriage of a Mary Davies (born abt 1832) to James Billingham in St Thomas Church on 12 February 1849. However, I believe that this Mary is another daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Davies and she is the Mary shown with the family in Fox Oak, Rowley Regis in the 1841 census.

The BCC entry for Mary Davies shows that her 1849 marriage certificate identifies her father as Joseph Davies, a 'Carter' and the 1851 census shows Joseph and Elizabeth living in Five Ways, Rowley Regis where he is a 'Carter'.

A bit of consolidation :?:

H.

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:04 pm
by Northern Lass
nailer2011 wrote:Jan,

Sorry to make a a further reference to the Billinghams :oops:

However, while checking my research on the (H)Ingley family of Isaac Ingley who married Esther (nee Perry), I noticed that BCC has a record of the marriage of Isaac's daughter, Elizabeth, to Joseph Davies and some of their children, but it also has a separate entry for the marriage of a Mary Davies (born abt 1832) to James Billingham in St Thomas Church on 12 February 1849. However, I believe that this Mary is another daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Davies and she is the Mary shown with the family in Fox Oak, Rowley Regis in the 1841 census.

The BCC entry for Mary Davies shows that her 1849 marriage certificate identifies her father as Joseph Davies, a 'Carter' and the 1851 census shows Joseph and Elizabeth living in Five Ways, Rowley Regis where he is a 'Carter'.

A bit of consolidation :?:

H.



Got Mary here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =430914321

can someone post the census plsfor 1851

need marriage of Joseph davies and Elizabeth too do you have that nailer pls

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:09 pm
by Northern Lass
Elizabeth Here with Joseph Davies

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =155425952

ok we need proof that this Eizabeth links to this isaac and esther

anyone got the marriage

or what info do you have nailer pls

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:10 pm
by Northern Lass
1841 at Bearmoore, Rowley Regis
Joseph Davies 45 Iron Stone Miner not born in county
Elizabeth Davies 45 born in county
Isaac Davies 15 Trace Maker born in county
Levi Davies 13 born in county
Caroline Davies 11 born in county
Mary Davies 9 born in county
Elisabeth Davies 7 born in county Joseph Davies 5 born in county
William Davies 2 born in county


1851 Five Ways, Cradley Heath. Rowley Regis.
Joseph DAVIS hd.55 Carter b. Row.Reg
Elizabeth DAVIS wife 52
LEVI DAVIS son 28 Chainmaker...unmarried!
Elizabeth DAVIS dau.17 Trace Maker
Joseph DAVIS son 14 Trace Maker
William DAVIS son 12 Trace Maker
Esther DAVIS dau.8 Schol.
William DAVIS Neph. 17 Chainmaker
Sarah DAVIS G/dau.8 Schol. b. Dudley
All others born Rowley Regis.

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:24 pm
by Northern Lass
Marys dau Caroline is a witness on her Aunts marriage Esther Davies
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =229224263

so that looks good for mary being sister to Esther
and the dob
and area

connecting up mary

still need more info pls
cant see bapt for mary

need marriage info for Elizabteth and bapt for her

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:30 pm
by Northern Lass
ELIZABETH INGELEY
Christening: 12 SEP 1798 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Parents:
Father: ISAAC INGELEY
Mother: ESTHER Extracted

can someone post that marriage pls 1817 halesown

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=42839767

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:00 pm
by nailer2011
Jan,

you are too efficient for me :!:

My research revealed records on the LDS site showing the christenings of five (5) children of Isaac and Esther in the Parish Church, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; Josiah on 18 April 1790, Shadrach on 18 March 1792, Phoebe on 20 April 1794, Elizabeth on 12 September 1798 and Rosannah on 9 December 1804 (buried on 18 December 1805). These were confirmed from a transcript of the Rowley Regis Parish Records. Also, according to Nigel Brown of 'CradleyLinks' and other online records, another son, Noah was born on 7 March 1796 but was not baptised (in St Thomas"™ Church, Dudley) until 13 January 1814. An LDS record was found which seems to confirm this.

A transcript of the Rowley Regis Parish Registers shows the burial of an Esther Ingeley, wife of Isaac, on 26 December 1810; the cause of death is shown as "˜Dropsy"™ (an old term for the swelling of soft tissues due to the accumulation of excess water and today is described as "˜edema due to congestive heart failure)"™. On this record Esther"™s age is shown as 51 years.

Hope this helps :-)

Will try to follow up with more info in a few days.

H.

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:11 pm
by peterd
Igi extracted

JOSIAH INGLEY
Christening: 18 APR 1790 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

ROSANNA INGLEY
Christening: 09 DEC 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

SHADRACH INGLEY
Christening: 18 MAR 1792 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

ELIZABETH INGELEY
Christening: 12 SEP 1798 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

PHEBE INGELEY
Christening: 20 APR 1794 Rowley Regis, Stafford

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:32 am
by Northern Lass
linell wrote:ESTHER HINGLEY
Christening: 25 DEC 1814 Cradley, Worcester, England

Father: SHADRACH HINGLEY
Mother: NANCY (ann attwood ?)

Register says Shadrach and Nancy, Nailer of Dudley.

HTH Linell.


thanks Linell

do you have the Halesowen marriage you can look up for me for Joseph davies and Elizabeth
1817 halesowen


or anyone else pls

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:10 am
by linell
Here you are Jan:-

Joseph Davis bach otp and Elizabeth Ingley X wcop otp sp
By Banns - Thomas Russon X and Sarah Davis X.

HTH Linell.

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:49 am
by Northern Lass
linell wrote:Here you are Jan:-

Joseph Davis bach otp and Elizabeth Ingley X wcop otp sp
By Banns - Thomas Russon X and Sarah Davis X.

HTH Linell.


Many thanks Lin

I will connect this up with a note

do we think looks ok?

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:17 pm
by Northern Lass
nailer2011 wrote:Jan,

you are too efficient for me :!:

My research revealed records on the LDS site showing the christenings of five (5) children of Isaac and Esther in the Parish Church, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; Josiah on 18 April 1790, Shadrach on 18 March 1792, Phoebe on 20 April 1794, Elizabeth on 12 September 1798 and Rosannah on 9 December 1804 (buried on 18 December 1805). These were confirmed from a transcript of the Rowley Regis Parish Records. Also, according to Nigel Brown of 'CradleyLinks' and other online records, another son, Noah was born on 7 March 1796 but was not baptised (in St Thomas"™ Church, Dudley) until 13 January 1814. An LDS record was found which seems to confirm this.

A transcript of the Rowley Regis Parish Registers shows the burial of an Esther Ingeley, wife of Isaac, on 26 December 1810; the cause of death is shown as "˜Dropsy"™ (an old term for the swelling of soft tissues due to the accumulation of excess water and today is described as "˜edema due to congestive heart failure)"™. On this record Esther"™s age is shown as 51 years.

Hope this helps :-)

Will try to follow up with more info in a few days.

H.



Can anyone check the RR transcripts pls see if the Burial for Rosannah is there and I can add as a possible

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:21 pm
by Northern Lass
NOAH HINGLEY
Parents:
Father: ISAAC HINGLEY
Mother: ESTHER Adult Christening: 13 JAN 1814 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Age at Adult Christening: 17 Extracted birth

Re: Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:39 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks nailer for info I have connected and added

flagging to archive

Re: ARC TBC..............Davies/Billingham Connection

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:47 pm
by nailer2011
Jan,

Glad to be of some help.

With reference to the Isaac and Esther's daughter, Rosanna, the following record on FindMyPast may be why no one has found any reference to her after her baptism in 1804:

Parish Records Collection - burial
First name(s): Rosanna
Last name: INGLEY
Date of burial: 18 Dec 1805
Age at death:
Calculated year of birth: Not known
Place of burial: Rowley Regis
Dedication: St Giles
County: Staffordshire
Notes:
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Rowley Regis St Giles:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage: 1616 - 1839
Number of entries: 10,887
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Record source: National Burial Index
Data provider: Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry

H :-)