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ARC...............JOhn guest

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:12 pm
by nailer2011
While on the subject of this GUEST family, it may help BCC to know that my research suggests that Elijah's brother JOHN GUEST married ANN MARIA HUGHES (nee KENDRICK) in the Parish Church, Rowley Regis on 18 July 1858. A copy of the marriage certificate shows John (aged 23 years) was a widower and Ann Maria (aged 24 years) a widow and he is described as a Miner. His father is shown as Benjamin Guest, Horse Nail Maker, and Ann Maria's father is shown as Joseph Kendrick, also a Horse Nail Maker. The witnesses are William Winwood and Sarah Taylor.

No information yet found on John's first marriage. :?:

JOHN GUEST died in the September quarter of 1858 and Ann Maria subsequently had a daughter, SARAH ANN GUEST; a copy of her birth certificate confirms her father was John Guest, Coal Miner - Deceased :cry: and that she was born in Two Gates, Cradley on 31 January 1859.

ANN MARIA KENDRICK had previously been married to Amos Hughes (but no record of that marriage has yet been found) and had a son with him, also called Amos Hughes.

The 1861 census shows Ann Maria (Guest) living in Fatherless Barn, Cradley with her parents Joseph andv Ann Kendrick and her 2 children, Amos (Hughes) and Sarah Ann Guest.

Ann Maria subsequently married again in 1861 to a Jacob Friend.

Sarah Ann Guest is my direct link to this family. :grin:

John Guest

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:26 pm
by Northern Lass

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:40 pm
by rockyfowler
18 Jul 1858 St Giles Rowley Regis
John GUEST 23 W Miner Old Hill Father Benjamin Guest Horse Nail-Maker
Ann Maria HUGHES 24 W Old Hill Father Joseph Kendrick Horse Nail-Maker
After Banns The Marks Of Both
Wit; William Winwood X Sarah Taylor X

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:19 am
by Northern Lass
do you have the certif info you can post pls nailer and we can add to Bcc

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:42 am
by linell
The Cradley Vicar's Notes for 1857 has the Kendrick family living at North Side of Two Gates Lane - Joseph Kendrick Nailer No Church - Ann C Of E Church - Maria Hughes 24 Widow Nailer - Solomon 16 Feb attends Baptist Sunday School - William 9 Nailer Baptist Sunday School - Alfred 7 Baptist Sunday School - Leah 6 Baptist Sunday School and Tisdale School will be National School - Grandson Amos Hughes 3 September. Solomon wishes to attend C Of E Sunday School not Baptist.

1863 the family are still in Two Gates - Joseph is described as No Church (that can mean he is a Non Conformist) he is now a Horse Nail Maker - Ann Church Seldom - Solomon 22 Works at Corngreaves - Eliza + Samuel born March 1864 (looks like Solomon is now Married with son Samuel) - William 15 Nailer No Church - Alfred 13 March Nailer New Connexion Sunday School - Leah 12 Dec New Connexion Sunday School.

HTH Linell.

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:58 am
by Northern Lass
AMOS HUGHES Christening: 19 NOV 1854 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: AMOS HUGHES
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted

SARAH ANN GUEST
Christening: 20 MAR 1859 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN GUEST
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:01 am
by Northern Lass
this must be amos

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =399005567

need that marriage for amos and ann maria

do you have the birth certif for amos pls nailer

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:14 am
by Northern Lass
This is really odd

She "marries" Amos pre 1858

She marries John Guest 1858
he dies 1858 (sept qtr)

She then marries again
1861
GUEST Ann M FRIEND Jacob Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/007/135

but in 1861 if that is Amos she marries he is still alive

and living with him some Kendricks

can someone post the 1861 pls with full details for amos

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:19 am
by Northern Lass
looks like 2 amos

AMOS HUGHES
Christening: 10 MAY 1829 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THOMAS HUGHES
Mother: ALICE Extracted


AMOS HUGHES
Christening: 14 AUG 1832 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HUGHES
Mother: HANNAH Extracted

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:24 am
by Northern Lass
I think the one with parents John and Hannah dies abt 1854

looks like it is the one with thomas and alice b 1829
as he has brother george with him in 1861

so does he die?
were they ever married amos and ann maria

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:33 am
by Northern Lass
1861 Joseph and George wrong ages need to be switched

as on Census George is 30 and should be 27
and Joseph is 27 and should be 30

GEORGE HUGHES
Christening: 23 MAR 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THOMAS HUGHES
Mother: ALICE Extracted


JOSEPH HUGHES
Christening: 28 AUG 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THOMAS HUGHES
Mother: ALICE Extracted

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:44 am
by Northern Lass
Can someone post the 1861 for ann maria with parents pls

and the 1861 for amos Hughes with those kendricks living with amos

why does ann Maria put wid on 1861

and how do those Kendricks with amos connect to ann maria are they her bros? or rellies

I think the other amos must die in 1854

nailer do you have any info on which amos it is
or anyone else I have put thomas and alice as parents

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:50 am
by mallosa
Northern Lass wrote:looks like 2 amos

AMOS HUGHES
Christening: 14 AUG 1832 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HUGHES
Mother: HANNAH Extracted


1851: Homer Hill, Cradley, Worc
John Hughes 56 Bricklayer
Hannah Hughes 56
Amos Hughes 18 Son U Bricklayer
Ellen Hughes 12 dau
Charles Edmunds 22 Son in Law Marr Pudler of Iron
Mona Edmunds 21 Dau
Frank Edmunds 1 Grd Son
(all born Cradley, Worc)

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:58 am
by Northern Lass
that amos is the one that dies I think

it is the amos with Thomas and Alice I think is ours

Re: JOhn guest

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:04 am
by mallosa
Northern Lass wrote:Can someone post the 1861 for ann maria with parents pls

and the 1861 for amos Hughes with those kendricks living with amos


1861: Two Gates, Cradley, Worc
Joseph Kendrick 52 Horse nailor
Ann Kendrick 51 Nailor
Ann M Guest 27 Boarder Wid Nailor
Salomon Kindrick 20 Son U Ag Lab
William Kindrick 12 Son
Alfred H Kindrick 11 Son
Sarah Kindrick 9 dau
Amos Hughes 6 Boarder
Sarah A Guest 2 Boarder
(all born Cradley)