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ARC TBC..............Kettles and Bastables

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Just seeing all those street addresses I thought there must be a link to the KETTLES in the BCC tree.

I do have a Helen "Nellie" BASTABLE ( born 1910) married to Albert William KETTLE ( born 1908 Langley)... they married in 1935, Oldbury.

Albert William was the brother of George Ernest KETTLE ( born 1909 Langley)... he is in the BCC tree ( they are both sons of Albert KETTLE born 1877 Dodderhill... in BCC tree)

I'm not sure how Nellie fits in with the BASTABLES in the BCC tree though.... I haven't had time to explore who her parents were..... anyone come across this lady before?
I will have a proper look when I have a bit more time.

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This could be Nellie:.....

1911 16 Nelson St. Oldbury.
William G.BASTABLE hd.34 Process Man Cyanide Works b. Oldbury
Elizabeth BASTABLE wife 32 Marr: 12 yrs. b. Oldbury.
William G.BASTABLE son 12
John Edward BASTABLE son 10
Elizabeth BASTABLE dau.8
Leonard BASTABLE son 5
Ida Jane BASTABLE dau.3
HELEN BASTABLE dau.6 mths.
All born Oldbury.
William Walker boarder Widr: 70 Ret.Lab. b. Brailes.
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Yes ....Sparkstopper thanks... think that might be right!
... just found a tree on 'Ancestry' where someone has that same family for Nellie.
Looks like they have a couple of generations going back aswell.... I will have another look and check on what they found.

Also found this on BMSGH

1935... KETTLE Albert W...BASTABLE Helen... Oldbury Register Office ...Sandwell Register Office OLD/1/109

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sparkstopper wrote:This could be Nellie:.....

1911 16 Nelson St. Oldbury.
William G.BASTABLE hd.34 Process Man Cyanide Works b. Oldbury
Elizabeth BASTABLE wife 32 Marr: 12 yrs. b. Oldbury.
William G.BASTABLE son 12
John Edward BASTABLE son 10
Elizabeth BASTABLE dau.8
Leonard BASTABLE son 5
Ida Jane BASTABLE dau.3
HELEN BASTABLE dau.6 mths.
All born Oldbury.


Think the father was killed in WWI...unless this is the son?

Name: William George Bastable
Birth Place: Oldbury, Worcs
Residence: Oldbury
Death Date: 4 Jul 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Birmingham
Rank: Private
Regiment: Worcestershire Regiment
Battalion: 10th Battalion
Number: 18882
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

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I think William G. b.1877 was adopted....See:

1891 Census: 8 Nelson St. Oldbury
William Walker hd. 50 Lab. b. Brailes
Jane Walker wife 48 b. Tipton
William BASTABLE adopted 15 Errand Boy b. Oldbury
George Powell boarder 51 Lab. b. Quinton

1881 4 Nelson St.Oldbury
William Walker hd.40 Lab. b. Brailes
Jane Walker wife 38 b. West Brom.
George Powell boarder 41 lab. b. Harbourne
William BASTABLE adopted 4 b. Oldbury.

William Walker is still with family in 1911...
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That's interesting...... is there any way of finding out who his birth parents would have been?
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Also found this on BMSGH

1898.....BASTABLE William G.....KEEFE Elizabeth...West Bromwich Register Office....Sandwell Register Office......WBRO/32/121

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You could send for a copy of Birth Cert:
This could be him....
1876 Oldbury
William G.BASTABLE
Sandwell Reg. Office. OLD/56/80
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Yes... that would probably clarify things a bit?

Had another look at that tree someone posted on Ancestry.... they have William George BASTABLE born 14 Nov 1876... parents Edward BASTABLE (b.1856) and Margaret Ellen EDWARDS ( b.1857). In 1881, they have the mother living at 24 Nelson St, Oldbury and have William as being adopted by the Walkers at no. 4 Nelson St.

They also have a marriage for Edward BASTABLE and Margaret Ellen EDWARDS .....Dec 1876 ( that would be a month after William's birth)

I don't know where they got their info. from?.... whether the parents are just a guess?.... the birth date is very precise though?

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Seems okay ...but...Don't take someone elses tree as gospal.
for £9.00 you can get your own copy of birth cert. and then you
will be 99% sure it is correct...Its up to you.
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http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_det ... lty=926918

BASTABLE, WILLIAM GEORGE
Initials: W G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Worcestershire Regiment
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Age: 41
Date of Death: 04/07/1917
Service No: 18882
Additional information: Son of W. G. and Margaret Bastable, of 37, Dibble Rd., Smethwick, Staffs.; husband of Elizabeth Abbey (formerly Bastable), of 16, Nelson St., Oldbury, Birmingham.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 34.
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rockyfowler wrote:http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=926918

BASTABLE, WILLIAM GEORGE
Initials: W G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Worcestershire Regiment
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Age: 41
Date of Death: 04/07/1917
Service No: 18882
Additional information: Son of W. G. and Margaret Bastable, of 37, Dibble Rd., Smethwick, Staffs.; husband of Elizabeth Abbey (formerly Bastable), of 16, Nelson St., Oldbury, Birmingham.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 34.



Thanks for that RF :thumbup:
.... so William George's father was W.G. BASTABLE..
does this connect up with any of the BASTABLES on the BCC tree yet?
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Haven't been able to find a W G BASTABLE yet that could be the father.... only an Edward BASTABLE married to Margaret... ( I think the same one that was on that Ancestry tree)... still looking though...

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expat66 wrote:Also found this on BMSGH

1898.....BASTABLE William G.....KEEFE Elizabeth...West Bromwich Register Office....Sandwell Register Office......WBRO/32/121

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Just noticed there is an Elizabeth KEEFE in the BCC tree ....born abt 1879 Oldbury... could this be the same Elizabeth?

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think we would need some certifs on this lot
as not able to look up :(

So unless anyone else wishes to run with this will flag to archive
we cant add to the tree without some proof
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