*Archived* -Isaiah Flavell

[Northern Lass]

I did a look up at the archives...getting thru em honest!

So who is this guy?
Who did he marry?

He is a miner on cert

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =313838553

[Jimmy]

Submitted.
ISAIAH FLAVELL.
Christening,25 MAY 1806. Sedgley, Stafford,
Parents:
DANIEL FLAVELL.
HANNAH.

Extracted.

ISAIAH FLAVEL.
ANN EADES.
Marriage. 18 MAR 1831. Old Swinford, Worcester,

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jimmy

any more on this lot can we run with finding out kids for him

etc etc

[peterd]

other kids subbmitted daniel and hannah

HANNAH FLAVEL Christening: 30 MAR 1794 Sedgley, Stafford,

MATTHIAS FLAVILL Christening: 24 MAR 1808 Sedgley, Stafford,

ELIZA FLAVIL Christening: 08 JAN 1804 Sedgley, Stafford,

MARY FLAVIL Christening: 03 JAN 1802 Sedgley, Stafford,

[peterd]

other kids for isaiah and ann extracted


JAMES FLAVELL
Birth: 03 DEC 1840
Christening: 21 FEB 1841 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


HANNAH FLAVEL
Christening: 24 AUG 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

[peterd]

poss marriage

FLAVEL James WALTON Ellen 1867 Stourbridge Register Office West Midlands Dudley Register Office 001/005/31


poss 1881 census

17 Delph Kingswinford, Stafford

James FLAVEL 40 Dudley, Worcester, Labourer
Ellen FLAVEL 37 Stourbridge, Worcester,
Henry FLAVEL 9 Brierley Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Roseana FLAVEL 3 Brierley Hill, Stafford, Infant
Arthur FLAVEL 7 m Brierley Hill, Stafford, Infant

[peterd]

poss marriage for hannah

HANNAH FLAVEL
WILLIAM ROLLASON

Marriage: 03 APR 1853 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

poss census

1881

23 Pale St Sedgley, Stafford,

William ROLLASON 52 Sedgley, Stafford, Laborer
Hannah ROLLASON 48 Sedgley, Stafford,
Thomas ROLLASON 26 Sedgley, Stafford, Bricklayer
John ROLLASON 21 Sedgley, Stafford, Laborer
Arthur ROLLASON 19 Sedgley, Stafford, Carter
Mary ROLLASON 11 Sedgley, Stafford, Dress Maker Apprentice
William H. ROLLASON 15 Sedgley, Stafford, Stone Quarryman
Benjaiman ROLLASON 13 Sedgley, Stafford, Stone Quarryman
Martha ROLLASON 10 Sedgley, Stafford, Scholar
Hester H. ROLLASON 6 Sedgley, Stafford, Scholar



two doors down

21 Pale St Sedgley, Stafford

William FLAVEL 27 Sedgley, Stafford, Shoe Maker
Margaret FLAVEL 25 Sedgley, Stafford, Nail Maker
Mary FLAVEL 5 Sedgley, Stafford,
Maria FLAVEL 3 Sedgley, Stafford,
Eliza FLAVEL 1 Sedgley, Stafford,
Elizabeth FLAVEL 2 Sedgley, Stafford,
Eliza ALLEN W 61 Dudley, Worcester,

[mumbles]

I have no details on these Flavells but I have researched Flavell family for Woodgate and Valley organisation and have a lot of info. Flavells seemed to have migrated from Sedgeley to Rowley and then to Northfield ( They were mostly involved in Canals). Northfield in 19th Century was not where we know it today but in Woodgate /Lapal area and one Flavell family were tollkeepers of Lapal Tunnel for a period.
I will try and put on bcc when I have time as there is a connection to my Parsons and Brookes line

[Northern Lass]

Ok Mumbles do you mean putting all this lot on that is on the posts above?

[mumbles]

Can do and I will try to find a link to my Flavells as well.

[Northern Lass]

Can do and I will try to find a link to my Flavells as well.

thanks that would be great

[RachelK]

Thanks for look up!

Found Isaiah and family in 1841 and getting confused over whether Ann/Hannah was two separate daughters or just the one?

1841 Woodside, Dudley
Isaiah Flavel 35 labourer y
Ann Flavel 30 y
Samuel Flavel 12 y
Daniel Flavel 9 y
Hannah Flavel 5 y
James Flavel 6 months y

From this, I am under the assumption that 'my' Hannah (Ann) Flavell is this one, with her parents. As the ages were rounded up? This could fit with her later birth year according to marriage cert and census of circa 1837. Perhaps the christening that Peter has found for a Hannah in 1834 was another daughter who then died?

Having had a quick look on the 1851 census I can't seem to find Isaiah, but there is a Hannah Flavell living in Stourbridge, which is where my Ann Flavell married James Kendrick in 1857, however I think this must be another Hannah, or she is telling some rather big porky pies if it is my one?

1851 Birmingham Road, Stourbridge
Hannah Flavell head (widow?!) 20 Brickmaker Stourbridge
Fanny Rutter lodger (un) 19 Brickmaker unknown
Sarah Flavell daug 6 Stourbridge

I doubt this is the Hannah who is daug of Isaiah, and married James Kendrick, as the age is off, she is claiming to be a widow and with a 6 year old daughter?! Although I am aware she could have had a child while at a very young age herself and perhaps claimed to be a widow if the child were illegitimate?

Much to ponder, I'm prob going down the wrong track as usual but any thoughts or help would be much appreciated. Just thought it was an interesting find.

[Northern Lass]

Wot I don't get is why down the census she is referred to as Hannah if she was Ann on the marriage and it was deffo Ann

It is a Hannah with James though on census... confused

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =450066201

[RachelK]

I think as Hannah is a common pet form of Ann, the vicar probably recorded her as Ann thinking that was her official name. As she signed her mark with an X she probably couldn't read the register and wouldn't have pointed out the mistake.

We have Ann Flavell on connections as born abt 1837, but as she married in 1857 and stated age as 22, this gives us a birth year of 1835. Consistent with Peter's finding of the 1834 HANNAH christening, and also the ages she gives on subsequent census - 5, 24, 34, 44 (until we get to 1891 where she says 59.) She is down as Hannah on each census. Just need to confirm where she was in 1851.

[Northern Lass]

Ok Guys this is now on Connections thanks Mumbles

so moving this to archived section

Completed with thanks