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Charles Willetts

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I need your thoughts on this please...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tts-Family

Just found this

1891: 12 Causeway Road, Rowley Regis
Charles Willetts 45 Head Labourer at Colliery
Mary A Willetts 43 Wife
Martha Tromans 63 Mother in Law Wid
(all born Rowley Regis)

Unless I'm missing something, how can she be his mother in Law?
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Re: Charles Willetts

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mallosa wrote:I need your thoughts on this please...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tts-Family

Just found this

1891: 12 Causeway Road, Rowley Regis
Charles Willetts 45 Head Labourer at Colliery
Mary A Willetts 43 Wife
Martha Tromans 63 Mother in Law Wid
(all born Rowley Regis)

Unless I'm missing something, how can she be his mother in Law?


I can't see you are missing anything Mally , I can't see Martha being his mother in law unless Charles had been married before. :?
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Thought this may throw a light on things but it don't. :(

Annie

1911 : 12 Causeway Blackheath B'ham
WILLETTS, Charles Head Married M 66 1845 Retired General Labourer Staffs Blackheath
WILLETTS, Mary Ann Wife Married
43 years F 64 1847 Staffs Blackheath
3 Children born - 2 living - 1 died

Is this a different Charles .
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What's the word that's crossed out and been replaced by mother inlaw. Does it say relative?

I can only see one Martha Tromans in previous census (1881+1871) and she is with husband Thomas (b 1817). She appears to be his second wife as he is with a Rebecca in 1861.
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Annie wrote:Thought this may throw a light on things but it don't. :(

Annie

1911 : 12 Causeway Blackheath B'ham
WILLETTS, Charles Head Married M 66 1845 Retired General Labourer Staffs Blackheath
WILLETTS, Mary Ann Wife Married
43 years F 64 1847 Staffs Blackheath
3 Children born - 2 living - 1 died

Is this a different Charles .


same address....

1901: 12 Causeway, Rowley Regis
Charles Willetts 54 Boat Loader Pit Bank Rowley Regis
Mary A Willetts 53 Rowley Regis

Have only seen 1 dau :?
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cid wrote:What's the word that's crossed out and been replaced by mother inlaw. Does it say relative?

I can only see one Martha Tromans in previous census (1881+1871) and she is with husband Thomas (b 1817). She appears to be his second wife as he is with a Rebecca in 1861.


I think it says Relation cid
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This Martha Tromans also had a daughter called Mary A.

1881 Rowley Regis
Thomas Tromans 64 H M Nailer
Martha Tromans53 wife m


1871 Peartree Stree Rowley Regis
Thomas Tromans 54 H m nailmaker
Martha Tromans 43 Wife M
Sarah Tromans 21 Dau
Mary Ann Tromans 19 Dau
Phebe Tromans 75 Mother
all born Rowley Regis

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Annie wrote:This Martha Tromans also had a daughter called Mary A.

1881 Rowley Regis
Thomas Tromans 64 H M Nailer
Martha Tromans53 wife m


1871 Peartree Stree Rowley Regis
Thomas Tromans 54 H m nailmaker
Martha Tromans 43 Wife M
Sarah Tromans 21 Dau
Mary Ann Tromans 19 Dau
Phebe Tromans 75 Mother
all born Rowley Regis

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Think that might be his daughter not hers :?:
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1861 Peartree St

TROMANS, Thomas Head Married M 45 1816 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
TROMANS, Rebecca Wife Married F 44 1817 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
TROMANS, Isaac Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
TROMANS, John Son M 12 1849 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
TROMANS, Mary Ann Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
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1851 New St Rowley Regis

TROMANS, Thomas Head Married M 35 1816 Nail Maker Parish of Rowley Staffordshire
TROMANS, Rebecca Wife Married F 34 1817 Nail Maker Parish of Rowley Staffordshire
TROMANS, Isaac Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Scholar Parish of Rowley Staffordshire
TROMANS, John Son Unmarried M 2 1849 Parish of Rowley Staffordshire
SMITH, Ann Mariah Cousin Unmarried F 15 1836 Nail Maker Parish of Rowley Staffordshire
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Looks like Rebecca Dies and Thomas remarries

Deaths Dec 1862
Tromans Rebecca Dudley 6c 1

Deaths Dec 1865
Tromans Rebecca Dudley 6c 4


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TROMANS Thomas SMITH Martha Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/003/67

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TROMANS Thomas WESTON Martha Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/004/338
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Here's Martha Weston in 1851

Yew tree lane rowley regis

NOOK, William Head Married M 57 1794 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
NOOK, Mary Wife Married F 61 1790 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
NOOK, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
WESTON, Joseph Son-In-Law Married M 22 1829 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
WESTON, Martha Wife Married F 23 1828 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
WESTON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 1 1850 Rowley Staffordshire
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and by 1861 she is a widow

Yew tree lane r/regis
NOCK, William Head Married M 67 1794 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
NOCK, Mary Wife Married F 71 1790 Nailer Huntingdonshire
NOCK, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 30 1831 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
NOCK, Mary E Granddaughter F 4 1857 Rowley Staffordshire
WESTON, Martha Daughter Widow F 33 1828 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
WESTON, Sarah A Granddaughter F 11 1850 Rowley Staffordshire
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Re: Charles Willetts

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no sign of a Martha Weston in 1871
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Here's is Martha's 1st marriage


1850

WESTON Joseph NOCK Martha Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/010/45
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