ARC TBC - Batchelor.... query on this one

[WP&JP]

Hi and hello everyone,
looking to find information on my Great grandfather john Batchelor on the 1911 census he is down as 18 burnt tree Stourbridge aged 58 wife elisabeth 41
children Richard (My granddad), Samuel, annie, James and Willie, have been tring for ages and have hit a brick wall.

Any help please.

JP

[grangers14]

What ages are the children?
Could this be Johns second marriage?
Jo

[WP&JP]

Hi reads John Married 20 years child ages 16, 14, 12,10, 8, 5
sorry I had missed the child aged 16 his name is also John.

JP

[linell]

There's only the one John Batchelor on the 1861 Census at Brierley Hill, would be Stourbridge Registration District:-


BOTTOM OF DELPH LANE

Given Name Family Name Relation Condition Age
THOMAS CROW Head Married 60 yrs
ELIZABETH CROW Wife Married 50 yrs
THOMAS BATCHELOR Son in Law Married 29 yrs
ELIZABETH BATCHELOR Wife Married 29 yrs
EMMA BATCHELOR Granddaughter 5 yrs
JOHN BATCHELOR " 3 yrs
CAROLINE BATCHELOR " 1 yrs

[grangers14]

What was his occupation and where was he born and Elizabeth, where were the children born?
Jo

[Antie Em]

Hi and hello everyone,
looking to find information on my Great grandfather john Batchelor on the 1911 census he is down as 18 burnt tree Stourbridge aged 58 wife elisabeth 41
children Richard (My granddad), Samuel, annie, James and Willie, have been tring for ages and have hit a brick wall.

Any help please.

JP

Hello and welcome to the Forum. Can I just say, Burnt Tree is in Tipton, Staffordshire, in the registration district of Dudley, not Stourbridge. John and his wife Elizabeth were both born in Stourbridge.

Hope we can help knock down your brick wall.

[Maths girl]

1911 18 Burnt Tree Tipton Staffordshire
BATCHELOR, John Head Married 20 years M 58 1853 Barweigher Stourbridge
BATCHELOR, Elizabeth Wife F 41 1870 Stourbridge
BATCHELOR, John Son M 6 1905 Moulder Iron Briehill
BATCHELOR, Richard Son M 14 1897 Moulder Iron Briehill
BATCHELOR, Samuel Son M 12 1899 Scoolboy Iron Briehill
BATCHELOR, Annie Daughter F 10 1901 Scoolgirl Briehill
BATCHELOR, James Son M 8 1903 Scoolboy Burnt Tree
BATCHELOR, Wellie Son M 5 1906 Scoolboy Burnt Tree

7 children 6 living

[WP&JP]

Hi Antie Em and thank you do you know who John and Elisabeth parents were please?
Have just been tring to find My Granddas birth cert but due to decorating cannot find it at the Moment.
JP

[Jimmy]

I can't see a marriage for them.

[cid]

there are these in 1871 in Amblecote Rd Kingswinford

BATCHELOR, John Head M 46 1825 Worcestershire
BATCHELOR, Martha Wife F 47 1824 Staffordshire
BATCHELOR, John Son M 19 1852 Staffordshire
BATCHELOR, Ellen Daughter F 13 1858 Staffordshire
BATCHELOR, Annie Daughter F 9 1862 Staffordshire
BATCHELOR, Richard Son M 6 1865 Staffordshire

[cid]

1861 Are these the same family in 1861??? Amblecote Bank Kingswinford

BATCHELAR, John Head Married M 36 1825 Forgeman & Iron Works Old Swinford Worcestershire
BATCHELAR, Maria Wife Married F 35 1826 Kingswinford Staffordshire Image looks like Martha
BATCHELAR, Maria Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar Kingswinford Staffordshire
BATCHELAR, John Son M 9 1852 Scholar Kingswinford Staffordshire
BATCHELAR, Mary Daughter F 7 1854 Kingswinford Staffordshire
BATCHELAR, Helen Daughter F 2 1859 Kingswinford Staffordshire

[cid]

Think we could do with the info from that birth cert, or info from any certs you have, to help us get the right people.

I can't see them in any other census

[cid]

could this be john in 1891 in New St Kingswinford Brierley Hill????

COLLINS, Thomas Head Married M 40 1851 Clay Temperer Stourport Worcestershire
COLLINS, Mary E Wife Married F 38 1853 Amblecote Staffordshire
COLLINS, John Thomas Son M 16 1875 Clay Temperer Brierley Hill Staffordshire
COLLINS, Joseph Son M 13 1878 Scholar Brierley Hill Staffordshire
COLLINS, Frederick Son M 11 1880 Scholar Brierley Hill Staffordshire
COLLINS, Annie Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Brierley Hill Staffordshire
COLLINS, William Son M 4 1887 Scholar Brierley Hill Staffordshire
BATCHER, John Brother In Law Married M 40 1851 Iron Works Stock Taker Brierley Hill Staffordshire

[WP&JP]

Hi
Found it
It reads 1897 Subdistrict of Kingswinford County of Stafford
24th March 1897
Richard
Father John Batchelor
Mother Ann Maria Elizabeth Batchelor formally Steadman
The mark x Ann maria Elizabeth Batchelor Potter Street Brierley Hill

Thank you
JP

[FarSide]

Was her surname Steadman?
I see this, but doesn't make sense..

Marriages Dec 1888
ANDREWS Isaac Stourbridge 6c 238
BUCKNALL James Stourbridge 6c 238
LEYSHON Sarah Elizabeth Stourbridge 6c 238
STEADMAN Ann Maria E Stourbridge 6c 238

1888
STEADMAN Ann M E ANDREWS Isaac Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/004/123