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Having some trouble working out who William HEWITT's wife (my great great grandmother) was.
Her name changes on every census:

1881 11 Hackett St
William HEWITT (29) is a rivet maker, born Rowley Regis..
wife Selina (24) born Rowley Regis
daughters Harriet(4)
and Hannah(3 months) all born Rowley Regis

1891 43 Hackett St
William HEWITT (40) bolt rivet maker,
wife Lenny(36),
daughters Harriott(13),
Hannah(10),
sons Enoch(8),
John(6),
Solomon(4),
William(1)... all born Rowley Regis

1901 45, Hackett St
William HEWITT(49) rivet bolt maker, worker at home, born Shropshire,
wife Lenna(44),
sons Enoch(18)striker(?) at ironworks,
John(16)screw?...fittings,
Solomon(14)labourer gen.,
Aaron(9),
daughters Lydia(5)
Ruth(3).
.wife and children all born in Blackheath

I found marriage of William HEWITT and Lanah HACKETT in 1875...Dudley, St. Andrew, Dudley Reg. Office 205/006/182

and birth of Lenny HACKETT in 1854 Rowley Regis Sandwell REg Office RR/20/266 ( could this be the same person?)

I am not familiar with the name Selina... is it commonly shortened to other names such as those above?

Are there any other names I should be looking for?

Confused Expat!!

May come down to ordering one of the kids birth certs
1896
HEWITT Lydia Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/114/267

1882
HEWITT Enoch Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/81/255

1891
HEWITT Aaron Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/103/252

Selina was quite a common name at that time, I have three in just one of my families. It was sometimes shorted to Lena and perhaps when the enumerator heard Lenny or Lena, he assumed it was Selina. I have never heard Lenny before, but it does look like you have the right one. I would think that the vicar spelled in wrong on the marriage, or it could have been transcribed wrong, some vicars had dreadful writing.

There is a death recorded for Lena Hewitt, June Qtr 1920 - Dudley District - Aged 65. This isn't shown in the West Midlands BMD records, so it would have been a sub district of Dudley, probably Rowley Regis, these haven't been added yet.

Here is the family in 1911 at 19 Halesowen Street, Blackheath

HEWITT, William Head Married M 61 1850 Frost Stud Maker Gorsty Hill Wor
HEWITT, Jenna Wife Married
36 years F 57 1854 Whiteheath Staff
HEWITT, Aaron Son Single M 19 1892 Screwer Blackheath Staff
HEWITT, Lydia Daughter Single F 16 1895 Screwer Blackheath Staff
HEWITT, Ruth Daughter F 13 1898 Blackheath Staff

This is the first census that was filled in by the househoulder and is signed by William. The original does say Jenna.


Very confusing, but I think the marriage found have found for Lanah and the birth for Lenny are probably the right ones.

Fun - isn't it

25 Dec 1875 St Andrew Dudley
William HEWITT F B Rivet Maker Rowley Father William Hewitt Labourer
Lanah HACKETT F S Rowley Father Illegit
Wit; Joseph Adams Sarah Adams

OOer!!

Thanks again RF... you helped me out before didn't you?

So... if she was illegitimate the surname Hackett may be her mother's surname?

Gosh!
Expat

Antie Em wrote:Selina was quite a common name at that time, I have three in just one of my families. It was sometimes shorted to Lena and perhaps when the enumerator heard Lenny or Lena, he assumed it was Selina. I have never heard Lenny before, but it does look like you have the right one. I would think that the vicar spelled in wrong on the marriage, or it could have been transcribed wrong, some vicars had dreadful writing.

There is a death recorded for Lena Hewitt, June Qtr 1920 - Dudley District - Aged 65. This isn't shown in the West Midlands BMD records, so it would have been a sub district of Dudley, probably Rowley Regis, these haven't been added yet.

Here is the family in 1911 at 19 Halesowen Street, Blackheath

HEWITT, William Head Married M 61 1850 Frost Stud Maker Gorsty Hill Wor
HEWITT, Jenna Wife Married
36 years F 57 1854 Whiteheath Staff
HEWITT, Aaron Son Single M 19 1892 Screwer Blackheath Staff
HEWITT, Lydia Daughter Single F 16 1895 Screwer Blackheath Staff
HEWITT, Ruth Daughter F 13 1898 Blackheath Staff

This is the first census that was filled in by the househoulder and is signed by William. The original does say Jenna.


Very confusing, but I think the marriage found have found for Lanah and the birth for Lenny are probably the right ones.

Fun - isn't it

Thanks Antie Em,
I didn't have the 1911 census.
It really is like detective work this... and totally addictive!
Expat

Hi Expat is this thread now completed?

Unless otherwise advised will move to archived section

Northern Lass wrote:Hi Expat is this thread now completed?

Unless otherwise advised will move to archived section

Yes .. Think I need to send off for one of the kids' certificates.. So this is as far as I can go with this at the mo'
Thanks
Expat

Brought back as requested by expat

I have some new info. on this lady...
Now have the birth certificate for Lenny HACKETT...
born 7 Nov 1854 Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
mother Maria HACKETT ... name and occupation of father not listed
signed.. the mark of Maria HACKETT, Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis on 15 Nov 1854... John Whitehouse the Registrar

I am wondering if the mother is this Maria HACKETT on BCC

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ett-Family

There is a Selina amongst the children listed and 'Lenny' or Lanah used the name Selina on one of the censuses I have for her. This Selina was also born before Maria's marriage to Moses ROSE

Also ...from BCC... on the 1841 census the father of Maria Hackett ( Josiah) has a wife Lenney ....so maybe it is the right Maria .. and she names her baby after her mother?

I had not found my Lenny or Lanah on either the 1861 or 1871 census .... maybe she is with Maria and husband Moses ROSE?

Still don't have 'ancestry' access at the moment ( still waiting for new credit card .... we are dealing with aftermath of bad postal strike here and lots of post has gone astray!) so wonder whether you good people could please have a look at the census for me to see if Lenny/Lanah/ Selina is in this household?

Many Thanks
Expat

It certainly looks like it.
They didnt marry till 1856 and there is no proof that Selina is Moses child...

Same address too.

Poss
1861
Gorsty park, Rowley
Moses Rose 25 - Labourer
Maria Rose 24 - Nailmaker
Lenna Rose 6 - daug
Harriett Rose 5 MO - daug
all b Rowley

1871
Gorsty park, Rowley
Moses Rose 36 - Lab at coal wharf
Meria Rose 34 - Nailmaker
Selina Rose 16
Harriet Rose 10
Joseph Rose 6
Moses Rose 4
Elizabeth Rose 2
al b Rowley

Thankyou Grangers & Farside,

I think that Lenny Hackett & Selina Rose are the same person.

I suppose to be really sure we have to see if there is a birth for a Selina or Lenna Rose

What do you think?

Expat

You need to send for her birth certificate Expat, this is the only one I can find here:-

ROSE Selina Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/18/373 1854

Linell.

linell wrote:You need to send for her birth certificate Expat, this is the only one I can find here:-

ROSE Selina Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/18/373 1854

Linell.

Thanks Linell,

Oh dear ... this might completely blow my theory ... yes I would need the certificate wouldn't I...

Could be 'back to the drawing board' with this one!

Expat