*Archive? * Extra marriage
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*Archive? * Extra marriage
Here's another extra one if anyone fancies running with it
23.12.1883 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
James Johnson, 25, B, Chain Maker, of Dudley, Father Simeon Johnson, Chain Maker
Ellen Price, 26, W, of Dudley, Father William Brettle? (Dec) Blacksmith
Wit : Samuel Martin and Ann Martin (X)
James is already on BCC - Born abt 1859, Rowley Regis, son of Simeon and Rhoda - Here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =638636176
23.12.1883 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
James Johnson, 25, B, Chain Maker, of Dudley, Father Simeon Johnson, Chain Maker
Ellen Price, 26, W, of Dudley, Father William Brettle? (Dec) Blacksmith
Wit : Samuel Martin and Ann Martin (X)
James is already on BCC - Born abt 1859, Rowley Regis, son of Simeon and Rhoda - Here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =638636176
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Re: Extra marriage
Possible first marriage for Ellen.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1876.
BRETTLE Ellen. PRICE Joseph. Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office. 202/007/439.
Joseph Price.
Groom's Birth Date: 1854.
Groom's Age: 22.
Bride's Name: Ellen Brettle.
Bride's Birth Date: 1857.
Bride's Age: 19.
Marriage Date: 05 Jun 1876.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Price.
Bride's Father's Name: William Brettle.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470600.
Reference Number: 439 p 220.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1876.
BRETTLE Ellen. PRICE Joseph. Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office. 202/007/439.
Joseph Price.
Groom's Birth Date: 1854.
Groom's Age: 22.
Bride's Name: Ellen Brettle.
Bride's Birth Date: 1857.
Bride's Age: 19.
Marriage Date: 05 Jun 1876.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Price.
Bride's Father's Name: William Brettle.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470600.
Reference Number: 439 p 220.
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Re: Extra marriage
1861. Bowling Green.
William Brettle 34. Black Smith.
Phebe Brettle 35. Rowley.
Rebecca Brettle 15.
Mary Brettle 14.
Sarah Ann Brettle 12.
Leah Brettle 10.
Ann Brettle 8.
Thomas Brettle 6.
Levina Brettle 5.
Ellen Brettle 3.
Joseph Brettle 1.
Thomas Brettle 67. Lodger. Black Smith.
Mary Brettle 68. Lodgers wife.
All others born Dudley.
William Brettle 34. Black Smith.
Phebe Brettle 35. Rowley.
Rebecca Brettle 15.
Mary Brettle 14.
Sarah Ann Brettle 12.
Leah Brettle 10.
Ann Brettle 8.
Thomas Brettle 6.
Levina Brettle 5.
Ellen Brettle 3.
Joseph Brettle 1.
Thomas Brettle 67. Lodger. Black Smith.
Mary Brettle 68. Lodgers wife.
All others born Dudley.
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Re: Extra marriage
William Brettle.
Bride's Name: Phoebe Westwood.
Marriage Date: 13 Jan 1845.
Marriage Place: Clent, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: James Brettle.
Bride's Father's Name: Joseph Westwood.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03517-3.
System Origin: England-VR.
Source Film Number: 1042161.
Reference Number: 2:1T2ST5L.
Bride's Name: Phoebe Westwood.
Marriage Date: 13 Jan 1845.
Marriage Place: Clent, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: James Brettle.
Bride's Father's Name: Joseph Westwood.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03517-3.
System Origin: England-VR.
Source Film Number: 1042161.
Reference Number: 2:1T2ST5L.
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Re: Extra marriage
This looks like it is going to go along the Brettle thread on the board!
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Re: Extra marriage
Possible marriage for witnesses
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
MARTIN Samuel BRETTLE Ann Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/007/69
They are all together in 1881 with sister Lavina with the Martin Family Ellen nextdoor
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
MARTIN Samuel BRETTLE Ann Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/007/69
They are all together in 1881 with sister Lavina with the Martin Family Ellen nextdoor
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Re: Extra marriage
Samuel Martin.
Groom's Birth Date: 1851.
Groom's Age: 22.
Bride's Name: Ann Brettle.
Bride's Birth Date: 1851.
Bride's Age: 22.
Marriage Date: 01 Dec 1873.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Martin.
Bride's Father's Name: William Brettle.
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470600.
Reference Number: 69 p 35.
Groom's Birth Date: 1851.
Groom's Age: 22.
Bride's Name: Ann Brettle.
Bride's Birth Date: 1851.
Bride's Age: 22.
Marriage Date: 01 Dec 1873.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Martin.
Bride's Father's Name: William Brettle.
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470600.
Reference Number: 69 p 35.
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Re: Extra marriage
Possible for Samuel Martins first marriage.
Samuel Martin.
Groom's Birth Date: 1851.
Groom's Age: 19.
Bride's Name: Ellen Jeavons.
Bride's Birth Date: 1852.
Bride's Age: 18.
Marriage Date: 07 Jun 1870.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Martin.
Bride's Father's Name: Daniel Jeavons.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01386-0.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470600.
Reference Number: Item 1 en#433 p 217.
Deaths Jun 1873.
Martin. Ellen . 21. Dudley. 6c. 72.
Samuel Martin.
Groom's Birth Date: 1851.
Groom's Age: 19.
Bride's Name: Ellen Jeavons.
Bride's Birth Date: 1852.
Bride's Age: 18.
Marriage Date: 07 Jun 1870.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Martin.
Bride's Father's Name: Daniel Jeavons.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01386-0.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470600.
Reference Number: Item 1 en#433 p 217.
Deaths Jun 1873.
Martin. Ellen . 21. Dudley. 6c. 72.
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Re: Extra marriage
?????
1911 : 8 Brook Lane Old Hill Staffordshire
JOHNSON, James Head Married M 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hi
JOHNSON, Ellen Wife Married
27 years F 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Annie Daughter Single F 28 1883 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, William Son Single M 23 1888 Blacksmith Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, James Son Single M 15 1896 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Joseph Son M 13 1898 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Samuel Son M 10 1901 School Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Willfred Son M 7 1904 School Staffs Old Hill
Annie
1911 : 8 Brook Lane Old Hill Staffordshire
JOHNSON, James Head Married M 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hi
JOHNSON, Ellen Wife Married
27 years F 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Annie Daughter Single F 28 1883 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, William Son Single M 23 1888 Blacksmith Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, James Son Single M 15 1896 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Joseph Son M 13 1898 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Samuel Son M 10 1901 School Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Willfred Son M 7 1904 School Staffs Old Hill
Annie
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Re: Extra marriage
I will add this and connect up because it goes with the other thread.
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Re: Extra marriage
1891. Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
James Johnson, head, 33, Chain Maker,
Ellen, wife, 32, Chain maker, Worcestershire
Walter Price, stip son, 114,
Ann Price, step daur, 8,
Thomas Johnson, son, 6?
William, son, 3,
Frances?, son, 1
All others born Rowley Regis
1901. 99 Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
James Johnson, head, 42, Chain Maker,
Ellen, wife, 42, Chain Maker, Netherton
Walter Price, step son, 24, Chain Maker
Annie Price, 18, step son, Chain Maker,
Thomas Johnson, son, 16, Horse driver ? coal Mine
William, son, 13, striker? on chain
Simeon, son, 11,
James, son, 5,
Joseph, son,
Samuel, son, 8 m
All others born Rowley Regis
How many children did they have please Annie?
Wonder where is Walter in 1881?
Annie must be inbetween marriages, 1881 Ellen a widow and Annie born 1883?
James Johnson, head, 33, Chain Maker,
Ellen, wife, 32, Chain maker, Worcestershire
Walter Price, stip son, 114,
Ann Price, step daur, 8,
Thomas Johnson, son, 6?
William, son, 3,
Frances?, son, 1
All others born Rowley Regis
1901. 99 Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
James Johnson, head, 42, Chain Maker,
Ellen, wife, 42, Chain Maker, Netherton
Walter Price, step son, 24, Chain Maker
Annie Price, 18, step son, Chain Maker,
Thomas Johnson, son, 16, Horse driver ? coal Mine
William, son, 13, striker? on chain
Simeon, son, 11,
James, son, 5,
Joseph, son,
Samuel, son, 8 m
All others born Rowley Regis
Annie wrote:?????
1911 : 8 Brook Lane Old Hill Staffordshire
JOHNSON, James Head Married M 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hi
JOHNSON, Ellen Wife Married
27 years F 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Annie Daughter Single F 28 1883 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, William Son Single M 23 1888 Blacksmith Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, James Son Single M 15 1896 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Joseph Son M 13 1898 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Samuel Son M 10 1901 School Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Willfred Son M 7 1904 School Staffs Old Hill
Annie
How many children did they have please Annie?
Wonder where is Walter in 1881?
Annie must be inbetween marriages, 1881 Ellen a widow and Annie born 1883?
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Re: Extra marriage
Think Walter is with his uncle Thomas Brettell in Yorkshire 1881.
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Re: Extra marriage
grangers14 wrote:1891. Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
James Johnson, head, 33, Chain Maker,
Ellen, wife, 32, Chain maker, Worcestershire
Walter Price, stip son, 114,
Ann Price, step daur, 8,
Thomas Johnson, son, 6?
William, son, 3,
Frances?, son, 1
All others born Rowley Regis
1901. 99 Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
James Johnson, head, 42, Chain Maker,
Ellen, wife, 42, Chain Maker, Netherton
Walter Price, step son, 24, Chain Maker
Annie Price, 18, step son, Chain Maker,
Thomas Johnson, son, 16, Horse driver ? coal Mine
William, son, 13, striker? on chain
Simeon, son, 11,
James, son, 5,
Joseph, son,
Samuel, son, 8 m
All others born Rowley RegisAnnie wrote:?????
1911 : 8 Brook Lane Old Hill Staffordshire
JOHNSON, James Head Married M 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hi
JOHNSON, Ellen Wife Married
27 years F 52 1859 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Annie Daughter Single F 28 1883 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, William Son Single M 23 1888 Blacksmith Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, James Son Single M 15 1896 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Joseph Son M 13 1898 Chain Striker Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Samuel Son M 10 1901 School Staffs Old Hill
JOHNSON, Willfred Son M 7 1904 School Staffs Old Hill
Annie
How many children did they have please Annie?
Wonder where is Walter in 1881?
Annie must be inbetween marriages, 1881 Ellen a widow and Annie born 1883?
Grangers14 they has 11 cchildren 9 alive and 2 died.
Annie
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Re: Extra marriage
Thanks Annie
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Re: Extra marriage
grangers14 wrote:I will add this and connect up because it goes with the other thread.
Jo
Cheers - thanks Jo
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