can we work out why her father is James Hingley on marriage pls
Marriage info looked up by Rockyfowler<br>
6 May 1883 St James Dudley<br>
George Silvers 28 bach engineer Dudley Joseph Silvers dead horsenailmaker<br>
Clara Gill 24 spinster Dudley James Hingley shopkeeper<br>
banns<br>
both signed<br>
Wit- Thomas Clarke / Caroline Guest<br><br>
thread open for george
COMPLETED.....Clara Gill b abt 1859---------NL to add info
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
1861 Pedmore Road Dudley:-
MARIA GILL Head Widow 44 yrs
SARAH GILL Daughter Unmarried 23 yrs
EMMA GILL Daughter Unmarried 14 yrs
SOPHIA GILL Daughter 12 yrs
JOHN GILL Son 10 yrs
WILLIAM GILL Son 7 yrs
CLARA GILL Granddaughter 3 yrs
I suppose one of Maria's daughters Married James Hingley
Can't find a Hingley/Gill Marriage, maybe they just pretended to be Married
Maybe worth finding James Hingley Shopkeeper in the Dudley Directories, sometimes if you work backwards, the sons take over from their fathers, that would help work out who he was.
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MARIA GILL Head Widow 44 yrs
SARAH GILL Daughter Unmarried 23 yrs
EMMA GILL Daughter Unmarried 14 yrs
SOPHIA GILL Daughter 12 yrs
JOHN GILL Son 10 yrs
WILLIAM GILL Son 7 yrs
CLARA GILL Granddaughter 3 yrs
I suppose one of Maria's daughters Married James Hingley
Can't find a Hingley/Gill Marriage, maybe they just pretended to be Married
Maybe worth finding James Hingley Shopkeeper in the Dudley Directories, sometimes if you work backwards, the sons take over from their fathers, that would help work out who he was.
Linell.
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
Possible -- connection to mining and her future husbands occupation?
1881 Goscote Hall, Walsall Foreign
GITTINGS, Jeremiah J Head Married M 43 1838 Mining Engineer Kingswinford Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Maria Wife Married F 32 1849 Kidderminster Worcestershire
GITTINGS, James Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Pelsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Florence Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Walsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Kate Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar Walsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Ada Daughter Single F 1 1880 Goscote Walsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Sarah Servant Single F 28 1853 Servt (Domestic) Tipton Staffordshire
GILL, Clara Servant Single F 22 1859 Servt (Domestic) Dudley Worcestershire
PRICE, Mary A Visitor Married F 24 1857 Dress Maker Dudley Worcestershire
Just found 2 Clara Gills in 1871 so this could be the other one!
1881 Goscote Hall, Walsall Foreign
GITTINGS, Jeremiah J Head Married M 43 1838 Mining Engineer Kingswinford Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Maria Wife Married F 32 1849 Kidderminster Worcestershire
GITTINGS, James Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Pelsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Florence Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Walsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Kate Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar Walsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Ada Daughter Single F 1 1880 Goscote Walsall Staffordshire
GITTINGS, Sarah Servant Single F 28 1853 Servt (Domestic) Tipton Staffordshire
GILL, Clara Servant Single F 22 1859 Servt (Domestic) Dudley Worcestershire
PRICE, Mary A Visitor Married F 24 1857 Dress Maker Dudley Worcestershire
Just found 2 Clara Gills in 1871 so this could be the other one!
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
1871 High Street, Dudley
GILL, Maria Head F 57 1814 Worcestershire
GILL, John Son M 20 1851 Worcestershire
GILL, Sarah Daughter-In-Law F 20 1851 Worcestershire
GILL, William Son M 19 1852 Worcestershire
GILL, Benjamin Grandson M 14 1857 Worcestershire
GILL, Clara Granddaughter F 12 1859 Worcestershire
GILL, Joseph Grandson M 12 1859 Worcestershire
GILL, John Thos Grandson M 9 1862 Worcestershire
GILL, Maria Head F 57 1814 Worcestershire
GILL, John Son M 20 1851 Worcestershire
GILL, Sarah Daughter-In-Law F 20 1851 Worcestershire
GILL, William Son M 19 1852 Worcestershire
GILL, Benjamin Grandson M 14 1857 Worcestershire
GILL, Clara Granddaughter F 12 1859 Worcestershire
GILL, Joseph Grandson M 12 1859 Worcestershire
GILL, John Thos Grandson M 9 1862 Worcestershire
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
1851 Woodside, Dudley
GILL, Benjamin Head Married M 36 1815 Labourer Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, Maria Wife Married F 34 1817 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, Joseph Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Miner Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, Sarah Daughter F 13 1838 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, Eliza Daughter F 12 1839 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, Maria Daughter F 10 1841 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, Emma Daughter F 4 1847 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, Sophia Daughter F 2 1849 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, John Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851 Dudley Worcestershire
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
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1911 17 Waverley St Dudley
SILVERS, George Harry Head Married M 56 1855 Driver Of Blast Engine Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Clara Wife Married 27 years F 52 1859 None Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Ann Elizabeth Daughter Single F 27 1884 At Home Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Ethel Mary Daughter Single F 14 1897 Drapers Assistant Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, George Luther Son Single M 19 1892 Clerk Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Horace Wesley Son Single M 12 1899 Attend School Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, William E G Son Single M 12 1899 Attend School Worcestershire Dudley
LAYTON, Sarah Mother-In-Law Married F 73 1838 None Worcestershire Dudley
Original states that Clara had 8 children 6 living and Sarah was married for 41 years 7 children 3 still living ( this is crossed out!)
Clara's mother would be Sarah Layton b 1838
is she Sarah Gill
1861
MARIA GILL Head Widow 44 yrs
SARAH GILL Daughter Unmarried 23 yrs
EMMA GILL Daughter Unmarried 14 yrs
SOPHIA GILL Daughter 12 yrs
JOHN GILL Son 10 yrs
WILLIAM GILL Son 7 yrs
CLARA GILL Granddaughter 3 yrs
1871
GILL Sarah LAYTON Charles Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/003/268
1911 17 Waverley St Dudley
SILVERS, George Harry Head Married M 56 1855 Driver Of Blast Engine Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Clara Wife Married 27 years F 52 1859 None Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Ann Elizabeth Daughter Single F 27 1884 At Home Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Ethel Mary Daughter Single F 14 1897 Drapers Assistant Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, George Luther Son Single M 19 1892 Clerk Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, Horace Wesley Son Single M 12 1899 Attend School Worcestershire Dudley
SILVERS, William E G Son Single M 12 1899 Attend School Worcestershire Dudley
LAYTON, Sarah Mother-In-Law Married F 73 1838 None Worcestershire Dudley
Original states that Clara had 8 children 6 living and Sarah was married for 41 years 7 children 3 still living ( this is crossed out!)
Clara's mother would be Sarah Layton b 1838
is she Sarah Gill
1861
MARIA GILL Head Widow 44 yrs
SARAH GILL Daughter Unmarried 23 yrs
EMMA GILL Daughter Unmarried 14 yrs
SOPHIA GILL Daughter 12 yrs
JOHN GILL Son 10 yrs
WILLIAM GILL Son 7 yrs
CLARA GILL Granddaughter 3 yrs
1871
GILL Sarah LAYTON Charles Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/003/268
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
1871 Prospect Road, Sedgley, Wolverhampton
LAYTON, William Head M 52 1819 Worcestershire Labourer
LAYTON, Caroline Wife F 43 1828 Herefordshire
LAYTON, Charles Son M 22 1849 Herefordshire Labourer
LAYTON, Sarah Wife F 30 1841 Worcestershire
LAYTON, William Son M 18 1853 Herefordshire Labourer
LAYTON, Emma Daughter F 13 1858 Staffordshire
LAYTON, Harriet Daughter F 7 1864 Staffordshire
LAYTON, James Son M 5 1866 Staffordshire
LAYTON, John Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire
LAYTON, William Head M 52 1819 Worcestershire Labourer
LAYTON, Caroline Wife F 43 1828 Herefordshire
LAYTON, Charles Son M 22 1849 Herefordshire Labourer
LAYTON, Sarah Wife F 30 1841 Worcestershire
LAYTON, William Son M 18 1853 Herefordshire Labourer
LAYTON, Emma Daughter F 13 1858 Staffordshire
LAYTON, Harriet Daughter F 7 1864 Staffordshire
LAYTON, James Son M 5 1866 Staffordshire
LAYTON, John Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
1901 6, Holdsworth Street, Wike
LAYTON, Charles Head Married M 49 1852 Stone Quarryman Herefordshire
LAYTON, Sarah Wife Married F 59 1842 Dudley Worcestershire
LAYTON, Benjamin Son Married M 29 1872 Stone Quarry Man Pensnett Staffordshire
LAYTON, Joseph Grand Son M 7 1894 Bradford Yorkshire
LAYTON, Arthur Miller Grand Son M 6 1895 Bradford Yorkshire
1881 Holdsworth St, Wike Aka Wyke
LEIGHTON, Charles Head Married M 31 1850 Blast Furnice Man (Iron) Hereford Herefordshire
LEIGHTON, Sarah Wife Married F 41 1840 Dudley Worcestershire
LEIGHTON, Willie Son Single M 9 1872 No Occupation Penshott Staffordshire
LEIGHTON, Benjamin C Son Single M 8 1873 Penshott Staffordshire
LEIGHTON, Walter Son Single M 4 1877 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, William Lodger Single M 26 1855 Labourer (Gen) Dudley Worcestershire
LAYTON, Charles Head Married M 49 1852 Stone Quarryman Herefordshire
LAYTON, Sarah Wife Married F 59 1842 Dudley Worcestershire
LAYTON, Benjamin Son Married M 29 1872 Stone Quarry Man Pensnett Staffordshire
LAYTON, Joseph Grand Son M 7 1894 Bradford Yorkshire
LAYTON, Arthur Miller Grand Son M 6 1895 Bradford Yorkshire
1881 Holdsworth St, Wike Aka Wyke
LEIGHTON, Charles Head Married M 31 1850 Blast Furnice Man (Iron) Hereford Herefordshire
LEIGHTON, Sarah Wife Married F 41 1840 Dudley Worcestershire
LEIGHTON, Willie Son Single M 9 1872 No Occupation Penshott Staffordshire
LEIGHTON, Benjamin C Son Single M 8 1873 Penshott Staffordshire
LEIGHTON, Walter Son Single M 4 1877 Dudley Worcestershire
GILL, William Lodger Single M 26 1855 Labourer (Gen) Dudley Worcestershire
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
Someone must have had a cold for this one!
1891 6, Holdsworth Street, Wike Or Wyke, Wyke
LAYSON, Charles Head Married M 40 1851 Blast Furnaceman Agent Bromyard Herefordshire
LAYSON, Janet Wife Married F 50 1841 Dudley Worcestershire
LAYSON, William Son Single M 19 1872 Quarryman Pensnett Staffordshire
LAYSON, Benjamin Son Single M 18 1873 Collier Pensnett Staffordshire
LAYSON, Walter Son Single M 14 1877 Collier Holly Hall Worcestershire
1891 6, Holdsworth Street, Wike Or Wyke, Wyke
LAYSON, Charles Head Married M 40 1851 Blast Furnaceman Agent Bromyard Herefordshire
LAYSON, Janet Wife Married F 50 1841 Dudley Worcestershire
LAYSON, William Son Single M 19 1872 Quarryman Pensnett Staffordshire
LAYSON, Benjamin Son Single M 18 1873 Collier Pensnett Staffordshire
LAYSON, Walter Son Single M 14 1877 Collier Holly Hall Worcestershire
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
Northern Lass wrote:can we work out why her father is James Hingley on marriage pls
Marriage info looked up by Rockyfowler<br>
6 May 1883 St James Dudley<br>
George Silvers 28 bach engineer Dudley Joseph Silvers dead horsenailmaker<br>
Clara Gill 24 spinster Dudley James Hingley shopkeeper<br>
banns<br>
both signed<br>
Wit- Thomas Clarke / Caroline Guest<br><br>
thread open for george
To return to the original question I think that Sarah Gill was her mother and that James Hingley the reputed father (out of wedlock!) -- would be interesting to see what the birth certificate says/ baptism?
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
linell wrote:1861 Pedmore Road Dudley:-
MARIA GILL Head Widow 44 yrs
SARAH GILL Daughter Unmarried 23 yrs
EMMA GILL Daughter Unmarried 14 yrs
SOPHIA GILL Daughter 12 yrs
JOHN GILL Son 10 yrs
WILLIAM GILL Son 7 yrs
CLARA GILL Granddaughter 3 yrs
I suppose one of Maria's daughters Married James Hingley
Can't find a Hingley/Gill Marriage, maybe they just pretended to be Married
Maybe worth finding James Hingley Shopkeeper in the Dudley Directories, sometimes if you work backwards, the sons take over from their fathers, that would help work out who he was.
Linell.
Yes could well be Sarah MG.
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
looks good to me
will add some of that nice work MG
do we have a birth certif to send for what is the ref pls
will add some of that nice work MG
do we have a birth certif to send for what is the ref pls
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859
Northern Lass wrote:looks good to me
will add some of that nice work MG
do we have a birth certif to send for what is the ref pls
There are two possible ones 1858
GILL Clara Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/070/215
GILL Clara Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/073/118
The other one must be the servant that I found in 1881!
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Re: Clara Gill b abt 1859---------NL to add info
thanks will suss that out 
will contact regis office and get one of the certifs
will contact regis office and get one of the certifs