Help with John Haynes please---Annie adding

[Annie]

I have had a Marriage looked up at archives by Maggie, so many thanks for that Maggie,

It is not this one On BCC......
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... &ver=23604

Here is the marriage.....
22.09.1878 - St John The Evangelist, Dudley, By Banns
John Haynes, 26, Builder, Coseley, Father John Haynes (Dec) Labourer
Hannah Whitehouse, 22, S, of Coseley, Father William Whitehouse (Broker?)
Wit : William Whitehouse

Could this following be the above John & Hannah with John's parents ,
if so why was father John Dec when he got married,
any help with this would be appreciated please.


1881 : 16, Bank Street, Sedgley
HAYNES, John Head Married M 59 1822 Bricklayers Laborer
Sedgley Staffordshire
HAYNES, Sarah Wife Married F 52 1829
Sedgley Staffordshire
HAYNES, John Son Married M 28 1853 Bricklayer
Sedgley Staffordshire
HAYNES, Hannah Daughter In Law Married F 24 1857 Dressmaker
Dudley Worcestershire
HAYNES, Arthur Grand Son Single M 1 1880
Tipton Staffordshire


Annie

[FarSide]

1891
Hartington Street, Withnell, Lancashire
John Haynes 38 - Bricklayer - b Staffs Coseley
Hannah Haynes 35 - b Dudley
Arthur Haynes 11 - Creeler? in cotton factory - b Tipton
Florence Haynes 9 - b Coseley
John F Haynes 5
Caroline Haynes 2
Sarah J Haynes 6/12
others b Brimsall?, Lancashire

1901
52 Burg or Bury Lane, Withnell, Lancashire
John Haynes 48 - Bricklayer in brickworks - b Coseley
Hannah Haynes 45 - b Dudley
Arthur Haynes 21 - Labourer stone quarry - b Coseley
Florence Haynes 19 - Cotton weaver - b Coseley
John F Haynes 15 - Labourer in brickworks
Caroline Haynes 12 - Tenser? in cotton mill
Sarah J Haynes 10
Walter Haynes 8
Henry Haynes 5
Alice A Haynes 1
others b Witnell, Lancs

[FarSide]

1861
Coseley, Sedgley
John Haines 39 - Blacksmith
Sarah Haines 32
John Haines 8
Samah Haines 5 (Hannah)
all b Sedgley

1871
15 Bank Street, Sedgley
John Haynes 49 - Blacksmith
Sarah Darnes 42
John Darnes 18 - Labourer
Hannah Darnes 15
all b Sedgley

[Northern Lass]

going to split this as we have 2 John Haynes
As Annie says not the one she was looking for

and we now have a query on the other so min while I split

[Northern Lass]

Annie that looks good for the John Haynes in the marriage above

not sure if those are his parents on census

what do we think

but I think the other stuff could be added along with that marriage

[Northern Lass]

1861
Coseley, Sedgley
John Haines 39 - Blacksmith
Sarah Haines 32
John Haines 8
Samah Haines 5 (Hannah)
all b Sedgley

1871
15 Bank Street, Sedgley
John Haynes 49 - Blacksmith
Sarah Darnes 42
John Darnes 18 - Labourer
Hannah Darnes 15
all b Sedgley

just this one is a blacksmith
not a labourer

does this one die before 1878?

[Annie]

1861
Coseley, Sedgley
John Haines 39 - Blacksmith
Sarah Haines 32
John Haines 8
Samah Haines 5 (Hannah)
all b Sedgley

1871
15 Bank Street, Sedgley
John Haynes 49 - Blacksmith
Sarah Darnes 42
John Darnes 18 - Labourer
Hannah Darnes 15
all b Sedgley

It does look good but like you Northern Lass it's the Blacksmith that's putting me off.
I will look for a death.
Annie

just this one is a blacksmith
not a labourer

does this one die before 1878?

[Annie]

1891
Hartington Street, Withnell, Lancashire
John Haynes 38 - Bricklayer - b Staffs Coseley
Hannah Haynes 35 - b Dudley
Arthur Haynes 11 - Creeler? in cotton factory - b Tipton
Florence Haynes 9 - b Coseley
John F Haynes 5
Caroline Haynes 2
Sarah J Haynes 6/12
others b Brimsall?, Lancashire

1901
52 Burg or Bury Lane, Withnell, Lancashire
John Haynes 48 - Bricklayer in brickworks - b Coseley
Hannah Haynes 45 - b Dudley
Arthur Haynes 21 - Labourer stone quarry - b Coseley
Florence Haynes 19 - Cotton weaver - b Coseley
John F Haynes 15 - Labourer in brickworks
Caroline Haynes 12 - Tenser? in cotton mill
Sarah J Haynes 10
Walter Haynes 8
Henry Haynes 5
Alice A Haynes 1
others b Witnell, Lancs

I think these census are good for John & Hannah so could add those along with the marriage if you think thay are ok Northern Lass.

Annie

[Northern Lass]

Yes please annie and thanks

[Annie]

Added here Northern Lass, added John's father but not the 1881 census with the occupation being different, if you would like it adding just let me know.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =313914125

Annie

[Northern Lass]

I think this looks ok to add annie
just not sure why deceased on marriage...but that is oftne an error

so we can add mother as sarah unknown too then we can archive and thanks

1881 : 16, Bank Street, Sedgley
HAYNES, John Head Married M 59 1822 Bricklayers Laborer
Sedgley Staffordshire
HAYNES, Sarah Wife Married F 52 1829
Sedgley Staffordshire
HAYNES, John Son Married M 28 1853 Bricklayer
Sedgley Staffordshire
HAYNES, Hannah Daughter In Law Married F 24 1857 Dressmaker
Dudley Worcestershire
HAYNES, Arthur Grand Son Single M 1 1880
Tipton Staffordshire

[Annie]

OK Northern Lass will add, I thought it looked ok but it was the dec on cert that was putting me off adding it, so will add it in a few mins.

Annie

[Annie]

Added that other census for father John Haynes & put wife Sarah unknown on Northern Lass.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =280694640

So this complete now.

Annie

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Annie that is great !!