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Can anyone help please ?

Frances Mary Cartwright - here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =491195367, was born in Melbourne, Australia around 1870. Her father is John Cartwright (from her marriage to Ernest Pearson). Frances is living in Kingswinford in 1881 with he mother Mary and Benjamin Cartwright, aged 70. I need to find out her birth details and if her parents married in England or in Australia. In 1881, Frances's mother Mary is recorded as being married.

Frances M Cartwright
Birth Date: 1870
Father's name: John Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Place: Newcastle, New South Wales
Registration Number: 13973

Benjamin Cartwright
Birth Date: 1872
Father's name: John Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Place: Newcastle, New South Wales
Registration Number: 14305

Amy Sarah Cartwright
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 213

Possible marriage for Amy
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CARTWRIGHT Amy S HIGGS Thomas Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/005/393

kdw wrote:Frances M Cartwright
Birth Date: 1870
Father's name: John Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Place: Newcastle, New South Wales
Registration Number: 13973

Benjamin Cartwright
Birth Date: 1872
Father's name: John Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Place: Newcastle, New South Wales
Registration Number: 14305

Amy Sarah Cartwright
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 213

Possible marriage for Amy
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CARTWRIGHT Amy S HIGGS Thomas Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/005/393

Thanks very much for that kdw, really useful. I wonder what happened to John. I can't see find him anywhere but his wife is recorded as still being married. They are living in the same house as Benjamin Cartwright, aged 70 and I wondered if this was John's father, but I can't see John with a Benjamin.

Thomas Higgs.
Groom's Birth Date 1872.
Groom's Age 26.
Bride's Name Amy Sarah Cartwright.
Bride's Birth Date 1875.
Bride's Age 23.
Marriage Date 29 Jun 1898.
Marriage Place Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name William Higgs.
Bride's Father's Name John Cartwright.
Groom's Marital Status Single.
Bride's Marital Status Single.

Jimmy wrote:Thomas Higgs.
Groom's Birth Date 1872.
Groom's Age 26.
Bride's Name Amy Sarah Cartwright.
Bride's Birth Date 1875.
Bride's Age 23.
Marriage Date 29 Jun 1898.
Marriage Place Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name William Higgs.
Bride's Father's Name John Cartwright.
Groom's Marital Status Single.
Bride's Marital Status Single.

Thanks Jimmy - one less lookup

This could be Benjamin the son in 1901

Benjamin Syd Cartwright
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Teacher
Gender: Male
Where born: Austria
Civil Parish: Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Institution for the Deaf and Dumb

Image says born Australia

Thomas and Amy in 1901
Quarry Bank Staffordshire
Thomas Higgs 31 Shoeing Smith Born Brierley Hill
Amy Higgs 26 Born Brierley Hill
Maude Higgs 2 Born Brierley Hill

Next door
Joseph Cartwright Head 1824 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Head Quarry Bank, Staffordshire
Betsy Cartwright wife abt 1829 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Wife Quarry Bank, Staffordshire
Thomas Cartwright son abt 1855 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Son Quarry Bank, Staffordshire
Ann Cartwright Daur abt 1849 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Daughter Quarry Bank, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Cartwright Gran Daur abt 1886 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Daughter Quarry Bank, Staffordshire

Perhaps Amys birth cert would give her mothers maiden name
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1875
CARTWRIGHT Amy S Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/101/130

Thanks again kdp - very much appreciated.

Maggie

I can't see Mary after 1881, did she go back to Australia.

1881: 69 Delph Lane, Kingswinford, Stafford

Benjamin CARTWRIGHT Head W 76 Brierley Hill, Stafford, Coal Miner Unemployed
Mary CARTWRIGHT Head M 40 Brierley Hill, Stafford, Housekeeper
Frances Mary CARTWRIGHT Daur 10 Newcastle, Australia Scholar
Benjamin CARTWRIGHT Son 8 Newcastle, Australia Scholar
Amy Sarah CARTWRIGHT Daur 5 Brierley Hill, Stafford, Scholar

if benjamin is poss john father could this be him

all submitted

JOHN CARTWRIGHT
Christening: 02 MAY 1841 Kingswinford, Stafford,

Father: BENJAMIN CARTWRIGHT
Mother: SARAH

poss siblings

ELIZABETH CARTWRIGHT
Christening: 13 JUL 1845 Kingswinford, Stafford,

PARTHENA CARTWRIGHT
Christening: 25 OCT 1829 Brierley Hill, Stafford,

MARY CARTWRIGHT
Christening: 05 MAR 1837 Kingswinford, Stafford,

JOSEPH CARTWRIGHT
Christening: 05 MAR 1837 Kingswinford, Stafford,

JANE CARTWRIGHT
Christening: 28 OCT 1849 Kingswinford, Stafford,

CARTWRIGHT Parthena LAVENDER James 1856 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/002/133

Is this still being worked on?
or is it completed?

Its completed thanks - just need to add the info but I can do that when it's archived can't I

Antie Em wrote:Its completed thanks - just need to add the info but I can do that when it's archived can't I

yes