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*Arc tbc* ---Eliza Tromans query

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mallosa wrote:I've added that marriage for a look up :-)


Ok look up done By Antie Em at Dudley archives

*Mally* (George born 1842 on BCC)
Marriage 1862
HARVEY George TROWMANS Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/330
Q: Is his father William
Q: Who is her father please?


09 Mar 1862 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
George Harvey (X), Min, B, Blacksmith of Dudley, Father William Harvey, Blacksmith
Eliza Trowmans (X), Min of Dudley - No father is mentioned
Wit : Phebe Knowles (X) and Jonah Knowles (X)

we can start adding this marriage and put in Eliza unk as Tromans
how you fixed Mally?
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eliza dad was samuel and mother was martha siviter they are on bcc
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Northern Lass wrote:
mallosa wrote:I've added that marriage for a look up :-)


Ok look up done By Antie Em at Dudley archives

*Mally* (George born 1842 on BCC)
Marriage 1862
HARVEY George TROWMANS Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/330
Q: Is his father William
Q: Who is her father please?


09 Mar 1862 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
George Harvey (X), Min, B, Blacksmith of Dudley, Father William Harvey, Blacksmith
Eliza Trowmans (X), Min of Dudley - No father is mentioned
Wit : Phebe Knowles (X) and Jonah Knowles (X)

we can start adding this marriage and put in Eliza unk as Tromans
how you fixed Mally?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections


There is a marriage - 1860/118, St Thomas for Jonah Knowles and Phebe Trowman - Might be interesting to see who Phebe's father is - she could be a sister or cousin to Eliza - There is a Phebe and Elizabeth Trowman together in 1851 in Rowley Regis, father Samuel and mother Martha
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How about this one

1861 - Rowley Village
Samuel Tromans, Head, 68, Nailer
Martha Tromans, Wife, 58
Edward Tromans, Son, 30
Louise Tromans, Daur, 16
Lea Tromans, Daur 15
Eliza Tromans, Gr Daur, 17

Next House
Joseph Daniels, Head, 36, Boiler Maker
Ann Daniels, Wife, 36, Nailer
Jonah Knowles, Lodger, 20, Coal Miner
Phoebe Kowles, Wife, 20, Nailer
Nephaniah Knowles, Son 1 Month

All born in Rowley Regis
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is it ann ?
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Northern Lass wrote:
Antie Em wrote:How about this one

1861 - Rowley Village
Samuel Tromans, Head, 68, Nailer
Martha Tromans, Wife, 58
Edward Tromans, Son, 30
Louise Tromans, Daur, 16
Lea Tromans, Daur 15
Eliza Tromans, Gr Daur, 17

Next House
Joseph Daniels, Head, 36, Boiler Maker
Ann Daniels, Wife, 36, Nailer
Jonah Knowles, Lodger, 20, Coal Miner
Phoebe Kowles, Wife, 20, Nailer
Nephaniah Knowles, Son 1 Month

All born in Rowley Regis


great!
I will amend census as we needed that info she is G.dau
so who is mother?


I would guess one of the daughters with them in 1851, Fanny or Elizabeth - don't know how we'll find that out though - there is a Daur Ann with them in 1841.
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Northern Lass wrote:is it ann ?

The only birth I can see which would fit is Eliza Tromans, born 1842 in Rowley Regis - RR/5/491
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Antie Em wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:is it ann ?

The only birth I can see which would fit is Eliza Tromans, born 1842 in Rowley Regis - RR/5/491


or this one
TRUMANS Eliza Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/027/8
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I think it is ann

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =141909940
where are this lot in 1851

is Eliza with them?
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westbromval wrote:eliza dad was samuel and mother was martha siviter they are on bcc

Do you have them with Eliza on any census Val ?
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Antie Em wrote:
westbromval wrote:eliza dad was samuel and mother was martha siviter they are on bcc

Do you have them with Eliza on any census Val ?

So that is Ann living next door to her parents in 1861 - she married Daniel Thomas

15 Nov 1846 St Thomas Dudley
-Thomas Daniel- of full age- bach engine man- Dudley-William Daniel - Nailer
- Ann Trowmans- of full age - Spinster- Dudley - Samuel Trowmans
banns
X both
wit- William Westwood X
Mary Ann Daniels X

I think NL that this Ann is the mother of Eliza - What do you think Sherlock ??
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Re: Eliza Tromans query

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I think it is Ann too as mother of Eliza
but we would have to connect up with a note as to why we think etc etc
I had a look in the RR transcripts but couldnt see a bapt
but only flicked thru

she is b abt 1844 45 ish


I think connect to Ann what you think?
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i think anne is elizas mother too
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westbromval wrote:i think anne is elizas mother too

OK Val - I'm going to connect them with a little note that although we have no definite proof, because of all the other information we have - it would seem very likely that Eliza is the daughter of Ann. I will have a look for a baptism though
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Antie Em wrote:
westbromval wrote:i think anne is elizas mother too

OK Val - I'm going to connect them with a little note that although we have no definite proof, because of all the other information we have - it would seem very likely that Eliza is the daughter of Ann. I will have a look for a baptism though

Eliza added here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =276996708
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