*Arc tbc* --Pamela Hayden and father John

[Northern Lass]

Can we find more on Pamela and father John pls
thread open for Henry

04 Sep 1853 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
Henrey Cley (X), FA, B, Puddler of Dudley, Father James Cley, Keeper
Pamela Hayden (X), Min, S of Dudley, Father John Hayden, Glass Bottle Maker
Wit : Henry Hayden (X) and Eliza Andrews (X)

[Northern Lass]

Can we find more on Pamela and father John pls


16.04.1860 - Holy Trinity, Amblecote - By Banns
John Tranter (X), 23, B, Puddler, Amblecote, Father George Tranter, Roller
Pamela Clee (X), 25, S, Amblecote, John Clee, Bottle Blower
Wit : George Shuck (X) and Phoebe Shuck (X)

Odd that Pamela Hayden on other thread has father John Hayden, Glass Bottle Maker

[Jimmy]

Thats what I thought,
we have looked for her before, all I can see is,

1861. Park St, Kingswinford.
John Trunter 24. Puddler.
Pamdeh Trunter 27.
Ann E Trunter 1.

All born Kingswinford.

[Jimmy]

1841. Kingswinford.
John Haden 35. Glass bottler.
Ann Haden 30.
John Haden 13.
Henry Haden 10.
Pamler Haden 8.
Ann Haden 6.
Phebe Haden 3.
Sarah Haden 8 MO.

[Jimmy]

1851. Chappel St, Kingswinford.
Anne Haden 44.
Henry Haden 20.
Puriela Haden 18. Kingswinford.
Ann Haden 15.
Phoebe Haden 13.
Sarah Haden 10.
Charles Haden 6.
Alfred Haden 3.
John Cox 18.

[Jimmy]

I still think Pamela Hayden and Pamela Clee could be the same person,

[Northern Lass]

I still think Pamela Hayden and Pamela Clee could be the same person,

I do too


Have we got her on Bcc not looked
or father

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jimmy that looks like her

[Northern Lass]

Merged these I think

she marries Clee
then Hayden
and it is an error in PR

I think we add one Pamela Hayden with a note of 2 marriages

[Jimmy]

I think she married Henry Cley, he runs of, then she remarries as a spinster under Clee name.

Is it right if they separate after about 7 years they can remarry without divorcing.

[Maths girl]

I think she married Henry Cley, he runs of, then she remarries as a spinster under Clee name.

Is it right if they separate after about 7 years they can remarry without divorcing.

I think it is more that if there is reason to believe they could be dead but no proof they can apply to have the person stated as dead by a court and are then free to remarry.

I've got a feeling that if your spouse disappears and cannot be found then it is possible to divorce them in their absence after 7 years.

[Antie Em]

I think she married Henry Cley, he runs of, then she remarries as a spinster under Clee name.

Is it right if they separate after about 7 years they can remarry without divorcing.

I think it is more that if there is reason to believe they could be dead but no proof they can apply to have the person stated as dead by a court and are then free to remarry.

I've got a feeling that if your spouse disappears and cannot be found then it is possible to divorce them in their absence after 7 years.

That's what happens today - but I wonder if anyone took any notice in those days.

[peterd]

started to add
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =444045091

[peterd]

1851. Chappel St, Kingswinford.
Anne Haden 44.
Henry Haden 20 1 st mar wit.
Puriela Haden 18. Kingswinford. (pamela)
Ann Haden 15.
Phoebe Haden 13. 2nd mar wit with husband
Sarah Haden 10.
Charles Haden 6.
Alfred Haden 3.
John Cox 18.

Can we find more on Pamela and father John pls


16.04.1860 - Holy Trinity, Amblecote - By Banns
John Tranter (X), 23, B, Puddler, Amblecote, Father George Tranter, Roller
Pamela Clee (X), 25, S, Amblecote, John Clee, Bottle Blower
Wit : George Shuck (X) and Phoebe Shuck (X)

Odd that Pamela Hayden on other thread has father John Hayden, Glass Bottle Maker

SHUCK George HADEN Phebe 1857 Stourbridge Register Office West Midlands Dudley Register Office 001/003/133

best way to confirm this is look up the above marriage father should be john

just notice register office marrige ?

[Northern Lass]

Looks good that Pete
so it is same pamela

error on entry should say wid and father should be John Hayden
we can add her as one and her 2 marriages