ARC - Charles Griffiths Oldswinford

[oscar]

This one has been driving me mad for 18 months.My 3 X Great Grandfather Charles Griffiths claims to have been born in Oldswinford Stourbridge in 1796 according to the 1841 census,however i can find no trace of him in St Marys baptisms or any other parish records stretching as far as enville .I can find many griffiths baptisms around that time but not the elusive charles.To make matters worse i can find two possible marriages for him and Elizabeth Howells my paternL ggg Grandmother in both 1816 and 1820 both at St Marys chapelry in Kingswinford i favour the first as i can pick up a birth of their first child in 1818 my gg grandfather absolom following on in 1822 from the IGI. Anyone any ideas?
Thankx Oscar

[peterd]

this him in 1841 lower lane, stourbridge

Charles Griffiths 45 collier
Elizabeth Griffiths 40
Absalom Griffiths 15
Amy Griffiths 12
Mary Griffiths 10
George Griffiths 7
James Griffiths 5

right 0scar he could be between 45 and 49 as they rounded down the age in the 1841 census

[peterd]

same page few doors down looks like all in same household poss younger sister or daughter?


Mary Garbett abt 1821 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
John Taylor abt 1811 , Old Swinford, Worcestershire
Susannah Taylor abt 1776 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
Matilda Griffiths abt 1821 Old Swinford, Worcestershire

[Jimmy]

1841 census only gives County of birth, and the ages are rounded up or down.

[Jimmy]

Possible,
Charles Griffiss.
Baptism/Christening Date 21 Dec 1806.
Baptism/Christening Place SAINT KENELMS,ROMSLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name William Griffiss.
Mother's Name Ruth.

[peterd]

matilda is poss daughter

extracted

MATILDA GRIFFITHS
Christening: 28 MAY 1820 Old Swinford, Worcester,

Father: CHARLES GRIFFITHS
Mother: ELIZABETH


poss siblings

JNO. GRIFFITHS
Christening: 08 SEP 1816 Old Swinford, Worcester,

ABSALOM GRIFFITHS
Christening: 14 JUL 1822 Old Swinford, Worcester,

[peterd]

if jno belongs to charles and elizabeth would go for the first one but both are extracted and for the same poeple ?

[peterd]

elizabeth widow in 1851

1851 new st, Stourbridge

Elizabeth Griffiths 55 wid nailer
Mary Griffiths 19 Labourer
George Griffiths 17 forgeman
James Griffiths 15 spade maker
Mary Griffiths 6

all born stourbridge

[oscar]

wow you lot are quick thanx all.got matilda as daughter found baptism on igi ,also found romsley connection but thought that was too late on as ggggrandad would only be 10 at first possible wedding!!
yup thanx got death at 1849 investigating possible colliery accident chronicled locally

[peterd]

there also a death for june 1847 stourbridge you know that 1849 is forsure ?

[oscar]

sorry u r right 1847 not got my notes handy .1822 absolom is my gggrandfather

[Northern Lass]

some of us go to the archives so if you want a look up
put it on the list under look up requests
and the thread entitled Dudley and smethwick look ups post here

[peterd]

poss death

Deaths Jun 1847
Griffiths Charles Stourbridge 18 393


Deaths Jun 1849
Griffiths Charles Stourbridge 18 366


Deaths Dec 1850
GRIFFITHS Charles Stourbridge 18 340

[Jimmy]

Possible,
Charles Griffiss.
Baptism/Christening Date 21 Dec 1806.
Baptism/Christening Place SAINT KENELMS,ROMSLEY,WORCESTER.
Father's Name William Griffiss.
Mother's Name Ruth.

This only a christening date not a birth year.

[Jimmy]

elizabeth widow in 1851

1851 new st, Stourbridge

Elizabeth Griffiths 55 wid nailer
Mary Griffiths 19 Labourer
George Griffiths 17 forgeman
James Griffiths 15 spade maker
Mary Griffiths 6

all born stourbridge

On image Mary is Henry.