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*Completed* -John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:24 pm
by Northern Lass
Have done a look up on a marriage and the occupation is this...and I have seen it now a few times....

a Fosbrook norton - well that is what it looked like

wot is it??

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Re: Occupation on a marriage certif

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:48 pm
by Jimmy
Hi NL,

What year and where abouts was the marriage

Re: Occupation on a marriage certif

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:55 pm
by Carol
can you e-mail me a copy and I will see if I can decipher it. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can see something new

Re: Occupation on a marriage certif

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:57 pm
by Jimmy
Send me a copy as well.

Re: Occupation on a marriage certif

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:58 pm
by Northern Lass
Hi Jimmy it was on a marriage look up I did it just says this ...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =822682906

if you look in the notes that is all I found

I want to chase this lot down now I have added them too! so going to change the title but I dont understand wot that fosbrook norton means.

Sorry carol and Jimmy I dont have a copy just my notes ....and I might have got it down wrong ....but thats wot it looked like.... :shock:

next time I go in couple of weeks I can photograph it and show ....

in the mean time who are this lot!!

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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:28 pm
by Carol

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:40 pm
by Northern Lass
thanks Carol that is a good link we could do with adding all that lot to the tree...... :wink:


I found this marriage for a samuel but need to place John with a Samuel and mother

SAMUEL BISSELL Spouse: HANNAH ELIZABETH WILLETTS
Marriage: 25 DEC 1869 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted marriage


oh no not another willetts..


can we see this Bissell on a census guys?

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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:03 pm
by Carol
take a look at these from 1881 cesus oin ancestry. Sorry all my subscriptions have run out at the moment so can only access these free ones

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... &gst=&so=3

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:09 pm
by Jimmy
From, 1861 census.

http://freespace.virgin.net/census.data/RG092063.csv


90,,Gibbett Lane, BISSELL, Neri,,head,M, M,34,,Gun Barrel Grinder,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL, Jemima, wife,M,F,35,,Nail Forger,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL, William, son,U,M,16,,Labourer Ironworks,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL, Samuel, son,,M,14,,Labourer Ironworks,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL, Emily,,dau, F,12,,Nail Forger,,,WOR,Halesowen.
BISSELL, Hannah,,dau, F,11,,,,,WOR,Hasbury.

Cradley,9,133,14,72,,High Street, BISSELL,Joseph,,head,M,M,35,,File Manufacturer,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL, Susanah, wife,M,F,37,,,,,WOR,Hasbury.
BISSELL, Samuel, son,,M,14,,File Manufacturer,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL, Alice M M,,dau,,F,6,,,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL,Victoria M,,dau,,F,4,,,,,WOR,Cradley.
BISSELL,Arthur William,,son,,M,1,,,,,WOR,Cradley.

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:45 pm
by Northern Lass
thanks guys...

ok the neri and Jemima one is great cos that links with this lot here..

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

so I can fill that in...

but whether that Samuel is the father of the John b 1870 not sure.

I have had a look on the census and cant see John William Frederick Bissell on 71 or 81 but not had a good look...but I would have thought Samuel father was born abt 1850 or just prior.- so could be one of those above....

I have found John WF Bissell on the 1901 he is down as a manuf of cycles and is born RRegis

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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:54 pm
by Carol
Whatever a Fosbrook Norton did, I bet he made bits of something out of metal!

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:05 pm
by Jimmy
Births Jun 1870.
Bissell. John William, F, Dudley 6c 13.

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:08 pm
by Carol
http://www.1901censusonline.com/results ... son_search

How about the Breeze burner of Dudley?

Z and K could bee confused and ee might look like oo?

age not too far off from what Jimmy has just found

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:11 pm
by Jimmy
1881 Census, this could be him with Grand parents WILLETTS, down as Fred.

Joseph WILLETTS. Head M Male 56 Dudley, Worcester, England Chain Manufr
Maria WILLETTS Wife M Female 52 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Mary WILLETTS Daur U Female 19 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Dressmaker
Phebe WILLETTS Daur Female 17 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Domes Servt
James WILLETTS Son Male 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coach Builder (App)
Joseph WILLETTS Son Male 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Fred BISSEL G Son Male 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar


128 And 129 Reddall Hill Rd
Census Place Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:12 pm
by Northern Lass
thats the one Jimmy thanks and I have just found him as a George :shock:

1871 Reddal hill Rowley Regis

Samuel Bissell h 22 m chainmaker b Worcs Cradley
Hannah Bissell w 21 b RRegis staffs
George WF Bissell 11mths b RRegis

next door to a Joseph Willetts age 46 and his wife Maria 42

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