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*Arc tbc*William Homer b. 1847 Rowley Regis, father Benjamin

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Spin-off from thread 'Joseph Brown born abt 1854 '.
Can we follow this Homer family back and link them to other Homers on BCC?

1891. 15 Mushroom Green, Dudley
William Homer, head, 44 b. 1847, Boiler Maker, Romley
Elizabeth, wife, 43, Dudley
Joseph, son, 15, Rivet Heater
Ellen, daur, 13,
Betres, daur, 9,
William, son, 6,
Mary, daur, 1, Dudley
Joseph Brown, Father in Law, 67, Dudley
All other born Romley


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
HOMER William BROWN Elizabeth Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/4/229

'Romley' is 'Staffs., Rowley' on image


Mary Elizabeth Brown?:

1881
At 3 Graingers Lane, Rowley Regis
William Homer Head 35 Boiler Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary E. Homer Wife 31 b. Worcs., Dudley
Joseph Homer Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ellen Homer Daur 3 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Benjamin Homer Father Widower 71 b. 1810 Forge Labourer b. Middlesex, London
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Re: William Homer b. 1847 Rowley Regis, father Benjamin

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Is this them?

1861
At Five Ways to Corngreaves, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Homer Head Widower 46 b. 1815 Forge Labourer b. Staffs., Rowley
John Homer Son 18 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley
Elizabeth Homer Daur 16 b. Staffs., Rowley
William Homer Son 12 b. 1849 b. Staffs., Rowley
James Homer Son 9 b. Staffs., Rowley

1871
At Corngreaves Road, Rowley Regis
Benjn Homer Head Widower 52 b. 1819 Labourer b. Staffs., Rowley
Elizabeth Homer Daur 24 b. Staffs., Rowley
William Homer Son 22 b. 1849 Boiler Maker b. Staffs., Rowley

If so how come Benjamin was said to be born in London on the 1881?
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Re: William Homer b. 1847 Rowley Regis, father Benjamin

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1851
At Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Homer Head 40 b. 1811 Pudler b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Mary Homer Wife 35 b. Rowley, Staffordshire
John Homer Son 12 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Homer Daur 11 Scholar b. Rowley, Staffordshire
William Homer Son 5 b. 1846 Scholar b. Rowley, Staffordshire
James Homer Son 1 b. Rowley, Staffordshire

Ages are a bit wonky.
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1841
At Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Benjn Homer 25 b. 1816 Pudler Y
Mary Homer 25 Y
John Homer 2 Y
Elizebeth Homer 5 MO Y

I dunno - do you reckon this is all the same family?
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dianel wrote:1851
At Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Homer Head 40 b. 1811 Pudler b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Mary Homer Wife 35 b. Rowley, Staffordshire
John Homer Son 12 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Homer Daur 11 Scholar b. Rowley, Staffordshire
William Homer Son 5 b. 1846 Scholar b. Rowley, Staffordshire
James Homer Son 1 b. Rowley, Staffordshire

Ages are a bit wonky.


there is this family too with father Benjamin and son WIlliam

1851 Redhal Hill, Rowley Regis
HOMER, Benjamin Head Married M 39 1812 Nailor Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, Eliza Wife Married F 38 1813 Nailor Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, Samuel Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Nailor Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, Benjamin Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Chain Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, Joseph Son Unmarried M 12 1839 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, Cornelious Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, William Son Unmarried M 6 1845 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
HOMER, Leiah Daughter Unmarried F 0 (2 MOS) 1851 At Home Rowley Regis Staffordshire

Still doesn't explain London transcription
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Re: William Homer b. 1847 Rowley Regis, father Benjamin

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Thanks for looking this up Rocky Fowler

18 Jun 1871 St Giles Rowley Regis
William HOMER 23 B Boiler Maker Five Ways Father Benjamin Homer Labourer
Elizabeth BROWN 22 S Five Ways Father Joseph Brown Furnace Man Marks Of Both
Wit; Thomas Woodall X Mary Woodall X


I'll start adding it.
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dianel wrote:Is this them?

1861
At Five Ways to Corngreaves, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Homer Head Widower 46 b. 1815 Forge Labourer b. Staffs., Rowley
John Homer Son 18 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley
Elizabeth Homer Daur 16 b. Staffs., Rowley
William Homer Son 12 b. 1849 b. Staffs., Rowley
James Homer Son 9 b. Staffs., Rowley

1871
At Corngreaves Road, Rowley Regis
Benjn Homer Head Widower 52 b. 1819 Labourer b. Staffs., Rowley
Elizabeth Homer Daur 24 b. Staffs., Rowley
William Homer Son 22 b. 1849 Boiler Maker b. Staffs., Rowley

If so how come Benjamin was said to be born in London on the 1881?


Its going to be this family as the address matches information on marriage cert.
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Re: William Homer b. 1847 Rowley Regis, father Benjamin

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I have added census and children to both
william
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =907664841

Benjamin to the 1861 census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =361247995

The earlier census seems odd for Benjamin but looks right.
Any thoughts?
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grangers14 wrote:I have added census and children to both
william
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =907664841

Benjamin to the 1861 census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =361247995

The earlier census seems odd for Benjamin but looks right.
Any thoughts?
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Age rounded up for adults on 1841 census? Can be up to 5 years difference.
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dianel wrote:1851
At Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Homer Head 40 b. 1811 Pudler b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Mary Homer Wife 35 b. Rowley, Staffordshire
John Homer Son 12 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Homer Daur 11 Scholar b. Rowley, Staffordshire
William Homer Son 5 b. 1846 Scholar b. Rowley, Staffordshire
James Homer Son 1 b. Rowley, Staffordshire

Ages are a bit wonky.


so is this Benjamin in 1851 above looks ok ages bit out

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =456616033

then in 1861
1861
At Five Ways to Corngreaves, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Homer Head Widower 46 b. 1815 Forge Labourer b. Staffs., Rowley
John Homer Son 18 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley
Elizabeth Homer Daur 16 b. Staffs., Rowley
William Homer Son 12 b. 1849 b. Staffs., Rowley
James Homer Son 9 b. Staffs., Rowley
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dianel wrote:1841
At Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Benjn Homer 25 b. 1816 Pudler Y
Mary Homer 25 Y
John Homer 2 Y
Elizebeth Homer 5 MO Y

I dunno - do you reckon this is all the same family?


I think this looks ok

do we have Benjamin on BCC?

there is this one area is good
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =483150057

do we have a marrige for Benjamin and Mary so we can check father
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Re: William Homer b. 1847 Rowley Regis, father Benjamin

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Possible.
Benjamin Homer.
Bride's Name Mary Mills.
Marriage Date 16 Jun 1839.
Marriage Place Harborne, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name Homer James.
Bride's Father's Name Mill James.
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Re: William Homer b. 1847 Rowley Regis, father Benjamin

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I have added the 1841 and 1851
put in Mary as unknown
and the marriage as a possible

not sure if anyone wants to run with this anymore?

father for Benjamin may be a James
would need that marriage looked up to see occup
of Benjamin etc

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